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pwd72s 08-24-2003 09:27 AM

I've found that lately, the last 5-6 years or so, I get more smiles, waves & thumbs ups than the angry jealous types. Maybe there is more appreciation for a clean long nose 911 these days?

RoninLB 08-24-2003 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by Randy Webb


There may also be 2 other factors -- 1. you may be driving differently in the 911 w/o knowing it, and 2. driving (and other) attitudes differ in different parts of the US. The PNW (even Taco Ma) is usually more laid back.

in routine calm street driving I'm in the right lane. even then when I shift many cars have it floored and when I shift they come tail close.. and then get pissed that I have to shift at the next lite.. I gotta install a fog machine in the exhaust to clear thing up.

Randy Webb 08-24-2003 12:21 PM

Yeh, Zeke, that's why I got rid of my Boxster S. Tho I did have a passerby put a flower on the windshiled once.

Remember all P cars have a stereotype associated with them -- they are made in Stutgart, by jack-booted, monocle-wearing thugs who spit on you when they talk.

Unlike the BMWs that are made by cute, pink-cheeked "soft" Germans, in their cute Lederhosen bondage-wear.

And of course, all the Italian machinery is made by excitable oversexed types who know how to make a car beautifu, but not how to make it run.

Then, there's the Brits... and the French....

nostatic 08-24-2003 12:39 PM

So Zeke are you in the stupid woman or anal jerk category? :D

Or maybe anal woman? Hmm...we may be getting somewhere here. I seem to recall a few video titles on that subject. Strictly research mind you...

cegerer 08-24-2003 12:39 PM

I currently drive one of those big 3/4 ton pickup trucks as a daily driver (for about 1 more week, anyway!). I've thought of getting a bumper sticker for my 911 reading 'My Other Car is a Pickup Truck' to keep the morons at bay ....... :rolleyes: No less than 30 minutes ago I had some cowboy with his wife and kids in a new 'Hemi' Dodge pickup try to drag race me on a busy 8 lane street ...... I didn't participate in the race ...... :rolleyes:

tkrefeld 08-24-2003 12:50 PM

"New 'Hemi' Dodge pickup [/QUOTE]


:rolleyes:

cstreit 08-24-2003 12:53 PM

Hi. My name is Chris... ...and I drive differently in my 911.

"HI Chris"

Seriously though, I've had some people pull some awfully stupid things around me, especially in the p-car, perhaps to impress? No idea.

I think this is happening more in general though, particularly in the ricer set. I think it's a reflection of the general "Dr. Phil" attitude these days of a) "I'm entitled to whatever I WANT" and b) "it's not my fault. If I cut you off and i get so close to you that I scare myself, YOU deserve to be flipped off because it;s my road and you interupted my blissful ignorance!"

Troubled times my friends, key is to stay alert, drive an aggressive defense, and when in doubt, hit the loud pedal.

I believe this is exacerbated now with the poplularity of the "Fast and Fultile, er, Furious" types. Used to be that Sedans, Wagons, economy cars were for a purpose, and sports-cars another. Now every pubescent kid in a Honda thinks he's driving a performance car and that he's Mario Andretti.

Two interesting obersvations and I waited to talk to the owner of a ricer performance shop to discuss terms of a sponsorship.

1) A manager was talking to a young kid looking for more performance out of his toyobishihonda something... THe manager asks, "so what have you done performance wise so far?" THe kid answers, "Oh, a LOT! Billet shift knob, neon interior, billet this, roll-cage, etc.." But I heard not ONE actual performance enhancing part!

2) A couple my age came in, nice married folk, unassuming, walk in, discuss for 1 hour performance in their WRX and walk to decide how best to drop about $5 grand in actual performance. Stunned, they definitely did NOT fit the profile...

SilverPoly 08-24-2003 12:59 PM

I'm sure there are a handful of jealous/haters amongst drivers out there. Add to that the heat and state of the economy and you've got some really agitated drivers. But let it go man, you've got the PRIZE.

Zeke 08-24-2003 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by nostatic
So Zeke are you in the stupid woman or anal jerk category? :D

Or maybe anal woman? Hmm...we may be getting somewhere here. I seem to recall a few video titles on that subject. Strictly research mind you...

I like to keep things simple. I'm just a jerk. I play more games on the roed than most. My favorite is to jerk the wheel back and forth when pulling a trailer (something I used almost every day) when people were getting too close or wouldn't let me over a lane. Man did they scatter. I had 4 car lengths of freeway to myself for a mile. Then do it again and laugh my ass off. I hate driving anyway. I love to race.

Peterfrans 08-24-2003 01:33 PM

I never expierenced this kind of behaviour driving the p-car. There are actually people giving me a tumbs up. That does not happen in my daily driver, a BMW the oposite happens, and I am not driving that different.
There is a lot of prejudice about the cars people are driving.

Sonic dB 08-24-2003 01:59 PM

Peter...people in Europe generally have more important things to do than flip other drivers off... a little more class than some of the Yanks over here.

RoninLB 08-24-2003 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by Randy Webb
P cars have a stereotype associated with them

Italian machinery

Then,

http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/munky2.gif ........Ron

Shaun @ Tru6 08-24-2003 05:59 PM

Here in Mass I typically get smiles and thumbs up, even driving aggressively nearly everywhere with a bright guards red targa. But going to New York a few weeks ago...

I always take the Hutch into the City, but there was an accident so I swung over to the Cross Bronx. Smooth sailing for a while, then stop and go (never have your top off through the Cross Bronx and its various short tunnels) and I am in the right lane, need to get in the middle. There's a very real break in traffic, I signal, start easing in and like a deer in headlights, I froze as the F250 pick-up sped up and then slowly crushed my left front fender, just before the headlight. He had his two young sons with him. Wasn't a redneck, but definitely worked hard for a living; he actually said he enjoyed hitting me, in broken English.

Sad news, it's technically my fault so I now get to learn body work and paint.

Really sad news, the Saab is not nearly as fun on the Merritt going down.

Schrup 08-24-2003 06:12 PM

I think I would have flipped out & cast some kind of Gypsy curse on him like in the Steven King novel Thinner. :mad:

pwd72s 08-24-2003 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cegerer
I currently drive one of those big 3/4 ton pickup trucks as a daily driver (for about 1 more week, anyway!). I've thought of getting a bumper sticker for my 911 reading 'My Other Car is a Pickup Truck' to keep the morons at bay ....... :rolleyes: No less than 30 minutes ago I had some cowboy with his wife and kids in a new 'Hemi' Dodge pickup try to drag race me on a busy 8 lane street ...... I didn't participate in the race ...... :rolleyes:
Hoot! Anybody remember those OLD license plate frames the wanaabe yuppies had? They used to read: "My other car is a Porsche"? Back then, 1970's, I had a a plate frame made. It said: "my other car is a DODGE PICKUP." ;

rsr808 08-24-2003 06:39 PM

Sonic dB,

I think it's definitely the color of your cab... I have a slate blue cab and drive like a madman around town and on the freeway and I think I piss some people off sometimes... I really wouldn't know because they're so small in my rear view. ;) When parked though, I often get the "Nice Porch!" comment... no that's not a typo. I don't bother to correct people... just say "thanks!" and smile. I usually have good experiences with the rice guys... a racer is still a racer regardless of the vehicle. I mostly drive about the 626/909 area so we might not be in the same circles. OH!! there is a type of driver that bugs the heck out of me and I think vice versa... Bimmer drivers really like to take on the 911. Don't know why really... they must think it's a German on German thing... don't know, don't care. I just cruise down the road with a big grin on my face. Most other drivers who see my facial espression (top always down of course) think that I must be mad so they probably leave me alone. Little do they realize the euphoria that I experience everytime I depress the accellerator. :D

My advice... get as far away (2nd gear usually does the trick) from those haters (pick ups, suvs and all) and enjoy the ride.

As I've read somewhere on this board...

"Keep it in the red to stay ahead!"

Aloha!

autobonrun 08-24-2003 07:13 PM

I've found age made me mellow out quite a bit. I will have owned my 911 20 years in April. Where I would have taken on a challenge in the past, I now just dismiss it. No more light to light racing. On entering a freeway, if someone is tailgaiting me, I will however take a 90 degree turn without touching the brake, then accelerate up to the speed limit (70 where I live). By the time I'm on the freeway and cruising, they are a spec in the rear mirror. The point has been proven, you haven't broken the law and they are left wondering how much was still left. I like planting the seeds of doubt and leaving it at that. As far as encounters with jerks on the road, I have had no more bad experiences in my 911 than in my daily driver; although I admit my SC is not red.

I think some challenge you just to see you get on it. Every now and then, I'll see the car beside me let their window down so they can hear my engine then try to get me to open it up.

Then, there's another large group out there that has no idea what their car can do or its limitations. They think their stock Eclipse can beat a Viper or a Porsche. On the streets, the fastest car or the best driver does not necessarily win; the person willing to be the biggest fool and take the most chances will. A fool in a Pinto can beat a Turbo if that driver is willing to place others lives as risk. Porsche owners typically are unwilling to risk other people's lives to prove a point. Just the way it is.

makaio 08-24-2003 07:35 PM

Re: Since I started driving 911, other drivers hate me.
 
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Originally posted by Sonic dB


.... you'd think I was the devil in the Red Cab.


Hey that's me!http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/...amingdevil.gif

Yargk 08-24-2003 07:58 PM

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Originally posted by cstreit
2) A couple my age came in, nice married folk, unassuming, walk in, discuss for 1 hour performance in their WRX and walk to decide how best to drop about $5 grand in actual performance. Stunned, they definitely did NOT fit the profile...
:D :D :D

My girlfriend has a WRX wagon that I helped put 26k miles on. We got new tires recently. ;)

350HP930 08-24-2003 08:42 PM

I get all sorts of interesting reactions when I drive the 930.

Waves, thumbs ups, girls hanging out of windows trying to talk to me, angry rednecks and ricers hanging out of their windows threatening and challenging me and a whole lot of other types of responses from the other vehicles that surround me.

My wife tells me that when she takes the car out she gets a lot more extreme reactions from the young boys out there than the ones I get from the easily excitable little girls.

I know when I drive the jetta or escort that things are entirely different.

We understand the effect our cars have on people, some good, some bad.

While I don't enjoy someone wanting to do me or my car harm due to jealousy or disappointment at their own failures, I do enjoy all the positive responses my vehicle brings me.

You got to take the good with the bad.


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