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Brett@pcc 09-16-2003 03:23 PM

3.2 performance chip
 
Looking to put a chip in an 88 Carrera. Wondering if anyone has any suggestions on which to use? Thanks!
Brett@PCC

88 Club Sport 09-16-2003 03:42 PM

Check out http://www.911chips.com/ I've read may posts from Steve on both Pelican and Rennlist and he seems very knowledgeable on the subject. I'll be going that route as soon as get a sport muffler and euro pre muffler. Between the chip and exhaust changes, I think it is realistic to expect to see Euro 3.2 HP numbers or more.

JeremyD 09-16-2003 04:47 PM

search for Steve W he is THE man when it comes to 911 chips.

alf 09-16-2003 04:54 PM

No question SteveW at 911chips.com

catuck 09-16-2003 05:11 PM

I second no third the suggestion to contact Steve Wong. He stands behind his chips 100% and his prices are very competitive. I'm more than happy with the results I got with one of his chips.

Shaun @ Tru6 09-16-2003 05:29 PM

Love my chip. Steve is a first class business man too.

gr8fl4porsche 09-16-2003 05:58 PM

yep - Steve W's chips are the real deal.

Just installed one in my '87, definitely a difference in engine performance. I can't say the power increase is dramatic or that noticeable on an otherwise stock setup, but the engine runs better. The car feels stronger in the lower power band, seems to launch at lower rpm's, accelerates more smoothly, decelerates much much more smoothly, idles better, and makes downshifting to 1st at slow speeds less necessary.

Brett@pcc 09-16-2003 06:06 PM

After considering all the feedback and weighing my choices...I've opted to go with Steve ;) thanks for making it simple everyone!
Brett@PCC

mwbaum 09-16-2003 06:18 PM

ditto for Steve...awesome improvement on my 85...I imagine the early Carreras may notice more improvement however...but give him a call.

Joe Bob 09-16-2003 06:30 PM

Ingo has one.....:p

Silveresrty911S 09-16-2003 07:01 PM

84-86 model year wil see the best improvment as Porsche was a little conservative on their mapping, great throttle respose with Steve's chip :D.
Make sure ALL the pins are in the slots when you reinstall the new chip ( ask me how I know) my car ran like shizt until I discovered one small pin hanging out of the connector :(

Rick

Steve W 09-16-2003 11:58 PM

Thanks guys for your vote of confidence. BTW, your checks are in the mail ;)

gilroy 09-17-2003 08:55 AM

Go with a Steve W chip. I've tried a weltmasher Chip and the SteveW
Chip. With the Steve W Chip you will notice a more linear torque curve
and a much more stable idle. Vote Steve Wong for California Governor

rsr808 09-17-2003 09:51 AM

Man... you can't pay for this kind of advertising!!

Yep, SteveW is the man when it comes to squeezing out that last bit of reserve horsepower!

targa911man 09-17-2003 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brett@pcc
After considering all the feedback and weighing my choices...I've opted to go with Steve ;) thanks for making it simple everyone!
Brett@PCC

Not so fast! You haven't heard my opinion.
Go with Steve W's chip.

goat 09-17-2003 10:09 AM

I got one of Steve's chip, and I have to say it works great and all the above posts are true, yet don't forgot to mention that he will listen to what you want, and even after you get the chip he helped with my many install Q's

Paul Franssen 09-18-2003 01:06 AM

I visited Steve Wong's website and, well, it sounds almost too good... from the U.S. comments on this board, I gather the chip is excellent, but that is based upon U.S. cars: catalyzed etcetera...
I've got a standard Euro (non-catalized) 3.2 liter, rated at 231 bhp, with stock exhaust and -I guess- a 28-pin chip (haven't checked).
Has any of you any first-hand experience with Steve's chip for that particular setup? Perhaps Steve can tell me more about what his chip would -typically- do for my car. Also, I wouldn't want the fuel consumption to go up (in general street driving upto max abt 160 kph=100mph).
Thanks!

Steve W 09-18-2003 02:15 AM

Paul, my chip will do for the Euro versions of the Carrera as much as it does for the U.S. version, and probably more so as there is no O2 sensor in the mix. Although the throttle response and power on your 231 hp euro spec version is more powerful than the 217 hp U.S. versions, there is still much to be improved upon with the European chip mapping, as the Euro spec chips were not only mapped conservatively to comply with the worst of operating conditions, but they were mapped to use 95 RON octane fuel (90 U.S. CLC octane). Porsche had admitted this when 98 RON became somewhat of a scarcity in certain regions of Europe. The Euro versions are different than the U.S. versions in that Euro spec motors have slightly higher compression pistons, do not have an O2 sensor to modulate the idle or part throttle mixtures, and of course do not have a catalytic converter. Otherwise their ignition maps are very similar. For a while now I have had a European chip that produced a broadbased power gain of about 13 hp over stock, which is very noticeable, yet civilized and will consume no more gas than stock when cruising on the highway or putting around town, because I have basically left the low load part throttle fuel maps untouched. In a way you may even experience a slight increase in fuel economy because the ignition maps are reworked to make the motor burn fuel more efficiently. However, I have just finished completing the testing on a more powerful version of my original euro chip, with a slight increase in fuel consumption. The response and performance characteristic between the two can be differentiated as such: whereas the original version is described as civilized with a strong torque and power increase, the revised version is much more raw and unrestrained, with race car like response. I know this may sound like hype, but I assure you this description is probably the best way to describe the programming. I have nothing to gain by hyping and much to loose if I do. So you are welcome to try it and see if it performs to your satisfaction, and return it no questions asked if it doesn't. Several long distance runs were conducted over the same 500 mile highway course twice weekly at an average speed between 75-85 mph to measure fuel consumption between the stock, version 1, and version 2 euro chips. Version 1 showed no change in fuel consumption over stock, while version 2 took about a half gallon more fuel to complete the 500 mile course. So you have your choice at what you want, and I've programmed two octane versions of each, one to work with 95-97 RON European octane fuel (91 U.S. octane) or for 98 RON (93 U.S). If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Paul Franssen 09-18-2003 03:37 AM

Thanks Steve, very interesting. I'm going to start counting my money (I'll first checkwhat chip is installed right now in my car).

Lorenfb 09-18-2003 08:20 AM

Where are those before and after dyno tests that were promised last month?
What about the gas analyzer tests to show; the improved efficiency, better
running engine, and thus better overall driveability/performance?

All I read about is how good the chip "feels". Let's get some real data
so Porsche owners know what there're really getting. Any company
selling performance chips should be providing this data/info.

Note: The data provided at 911chips.com is not "clean" (before & after)
dyno runs, since the test vehicles had various mods.

Loren
'88 3.2


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