Power windows work w/o key?
 

I adjusted the drivers window on my '87 targa today. I found that the windows operate without a key. Is this normal? Search didn't cover this one.

My windows do not operate with out the ignition turned on.

Mine works without the key as long as I haven't opened either door first.

Ditto - mine work after the ignition is turned off, until a door is opened. Same with the sunroof.

Ditto the Ditto! I didnt know that

There must be a relay or something that isn't functioning properly on mine. It's leaving the circuit open. Hmmm.. maybe related to my interior dome light not working?? I hate electrics on cars.

Both windows work anytime on mine, car on or off. Sunroof only works with ignition on (not w/accessory). My interior lights are all inop.

1985 was the first year for that feature. The windows will work with the key out until you open a door. It's wired through the interior light circuit which cuts it out.
Mike: I think somebody wired your car hot all the time for the windows because an SC did not come with that feature.

For cars that have this feature, make sure you can't open or close the windows after the door is opened ( and closed). If you can still open a window after you do that, you'll soon have a dead battery.
---Wil Ferch

The PW on my 86 work all the time...door open or closed....key in or out.

OK so they are'nt supposed to work after the door is openned and closed. How does one diagnose a solution? The power line in is hot so it's not the switch.

9 times out of ten it's the door switch, even if you think it's OK...
---Wil Ferch

mine only work (ignition off) when the door is open:D

Same as Dickster's, mine work only when the door is open (ignition off)

Dickster, Henk,

So they don't work after the ignition is switched off, and before a door is opened? I think they should work then. Do your interior lights come on when either door is opened?

There was a thread like this about a year or less ago . . . with the same posts. Lots of differences. Pretty funny

My 86's work any/all the time as does the sunroof. I have no apparent lighting anomolies that I'm aware of.

todd

Attributable to some of the unique inconsistancies of somewhat hand-built cars?

Ben,

Indeed, they don't work when the ignition is switched off, and before I open the door, but with the door opened, they work. The interior lights do come on when either door is opened.

what henk said.

I think the idea about "handbuilt" cars as being a cause for inconsistencies is pure rubbish....

Let's focus on USA vs ROW cars.

USA cars should work as I had described before. Sunroof and windows open and close as often as you like after the car is shut-down, as long as door is kept closed. Once the door is opened ( or re-closed) the system should de-activate. If the windows can continue to work, the system is still "live" and can run down the battery....

---Wil Ferch