Flat Fuse Find!.....

[fred cook]

There has been a lot of interest on this board concerning the replacement of the stock 911 fuse panel with the newer "flat" fuses. The biggest problem being availabity. THE WAIT IS OVER!
I received an Eastwood catalog (Dec. 2003) today that has an 18 fuse block advertised. It is a straight line design and comes pre-assembled so you don't even have to make a base. It is Eastwood part number 60090 on page 8. That's the good news. The bad news is that it sells for $154.99 (less 10% thru 12/31).
So now you have a choice. Buy the fuse holders from Norway and build a base for about $30.00 or drop the big bucks for the prefabricated unit. Either way, you will have a better electrical system than stock.

Good Luck!

Fred Cook
'80 911SC coupe (with flat fuses)

[Ove]

Found it on the net here:

http://www.eastwoodco.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=60090&I1.x=72&I1.y=55

[scottb]

Does it come with a cover of some sort? Also, since it has what appears to be different dimensions, the boot carpet will have to be modified.

[john walker's workshop]

several of the stock fuse terminals are bridged in the back. like 3 in a row, 2 in a row. does the eastwood one come bridged, or is it bridgeable? i don't think so. it would probably have to be bridged with short wire loops, which isn't best.

[kellzey]

Wrong type of fuse panel

This one uses a central "hot feed".

Our Porsche cars use an inline type fuse (even on the fuse panel). several of the fuses may be connected (bussed) together.

What you need can be found here...

http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10101&storeId=10101&langId=-1&productId=144677&mediaCode=ZX&appId=385779

http://www.autoeurope.co.uk/products.asp?Category=Circuit%20Protection:Fuse%20 Boxes

http://www.7453217467431.com/browse/assBrowse.jsp?bmForm=search&bmFormID=1069089336312&bmUID=1069089336312&bmIsForm=true&bmPrevTemplate=browse%2FassBrowse.jsp&bmHidden=SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3Epath&SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3Epath=%2FAssortments%2FBrands%2FA llBrands&bmHidden=SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3Epath&SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3Epath=%2FAssortments%2FParts%2FAl lParts&bmHidden=SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3Epath&SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3Epath=%2FAssortments%2FPepBoys%2F PepBoysTires&bmHidden=SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3Epath&SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3Epath=%2FAssortments%2FPepBoys%2F PepBoysParts&bmHidden=SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3EobjectTypes&SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3EobjectTypes=PRODUCT&bmHidden=SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3EmaxRows_cd&SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3EmaxRows_cd=25&bmHidden=SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3EsearchTextOperator&SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3EsearchTextOperator=or&bmText=SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3EsearchFor&SEARCH_INPUT%3C%3EsearchFor=hella+fuse&bmSubmit=partNumSubmit&partNumSubmit=Go&bmHidden=FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2571423&bmHidden=affID&affID=39901&affiliate=39901

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[fred cook]

The fuse panel strips in the Eastwood catalog appear to have individual in and out terminals which is most like the stock fuse blocks. While it is true that the stock blocks are jumpered on the back, it is not only possible to provide the same jumper pattern externally, but has been done. It is not difficult, but does require a fair amount of patience and perfectionist attitude to do properly and neatly. One thing to keep in mind is that even if you split the evaporator fan and front condenser fan to separate fuses, you will still need a 20 amp fuse for the evaporator fan and seven or eight other positions. Because of the load capacity, most of the 5 or 6 gang fuse holders won't work because they are only rated at 15 amps capacity. One of the reasons that I used the fuse holders sourced from Norway (thanks, Ove!) was that by using a base plate of my own design, I could still get the original cover back on the fuse/relay box. I believe that in the long run, the fact that the flat fuses have much more contact area on the lugs will reduce or eliminate the tendency of the old style round fuses to heat and corrode the contacts. I realise that this project is not for everyone, but like I said earlier, it can be done successfully and provide some electrical system peace of mind.



Fred Cook
'80 911SC coupe (the one with flat fuses)

[HawgRyder]

Cole-Hersee makes one with 18 fuse holders....#46377-18 sells for about $30.
Available through NAPA, etc.
Bob

[kellzey]

The coleman-hersee 46377-18 has the common hot feed

[HawgRyder]

Karl is correct..common hot feed.
But...if you need that....then it's OK.
If you need to divide the feeds...just get multiple blocks.
The dash number at the rear of the part number refers to the number of fuses on the block...all common fed.
So...a 46377-10 is a 10 fuse block....etc.
Bob

[Zeke]

If Eeastwood has it, so does someone else. And probably for less. There are few 'exclusives' in the mail order world.

[Slant930]

Originally posted by fred cook
The fuse panel strips in the Eastwood catalog appear to have individual in and out terminals which is most like the stock fuse blocks. While it is true that the stock blocks are jumpered on the back, it is not only possible to provide the same jumper pattern externally, but has been done. It is not difficult, but does require a fair amount of patience and perfectionist attitude to do properly and neatly. One thing to keep in mind is that even if you split the evaporator fan and front condenser fan to separate fuses, you will still need a 20 amp fuse for the evaporator fan and seven or eight other positions. Because of the load capacity, most of the 5 or 6 gang fuse holders won't work because they are only rated at 15 amps capacity. One of the reasons that I used the fuse holders sourced from Norway (thanks, Ove!) was that by using a base plate of my own design, I could still get the original cover back on the fuse/relay box. I believe that in the long run, the fact that the flat fuses have much more contact area on the lugs will reduce or eliminate the tendency of the old style round fuses to heat and corrode the contacts. I realise that this project is not for everyone, but like I said earlier, it can be done successfully and provide some electrical system peace of mind.



Fred Cook
'80 911SC coupe (the one with flat fuses)

Now that fuse panel is a thing of beauty, I'm jealous....

[RickM]

How about fashioning an adpater that would fit over/into the existing prongs and provide the flat fuse receptacle. Snap on, plug and play.

[scottb]

If Eeastwood has it, so does someone else. And probably for less. There are few 'exclusives' in the mail order world.

It looks like the Eastwood product is actually a Painless Performance Products Model 30003. Take a look HERE.

[Glasgow 911SC]

For those who have upgraded their fuse box, how did you jumper between 2 terminals?

[Ove]

Originally posted by Glasgow 911SC
For those who have upgraded their fuse box, how did you jumper between 2 terminals?

I cut all my wires going to the screw terminals on the old 'box 2-3" from the terminals. Then soldered in new wires. This was because some of the old wires were very corroded. Instead of using a jumper I simply soldered two new wires to the end of one old wire, making an "Y".

[Glasgow 911SC]

Ah. Makes sense. Thanks for that Ove.

Does anyone know what the jumper situation is on an SC? By that I mean how many terminals are linked?

I've found a place that supplies a fuse box with 21 terminals.
The layout is

4 groups of 3 fuses jumpered together
3 groups of 2 fuses jumpered together
3 individual fuses

Here's a link to their website. It's about halfway down the page.

On a related note, I updated the rear 3 point fuse panel to blade fuses (somewhat messily) and my previously non working heated rear screen, rear wiper and heater blower now all work!

[beamonk]

I just recently met a long lost cousin who works for way-tek. If I can get her some info on what we need, we might have a source.