Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 911 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
Decolliber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Iowa
Posts: 1,020
What brand high wattage bulbs?

With Sucro relay kit I assume I can put higher wattage bulbs in H5s. I tried some cheap 80/100s from JCWhitney (about $10 each) and they lasted a few weeks before dying. (same result in my A6 too). Can someone recommend a better brand of higher wattage bulbs? Right now I have regular wattage PIAAs (expensive!), which are supposed to be brighter but do not seem to be.

__________________
John C
1988 911 Carrera coupe
2002 BMW 530
Old 11-19-2003, 07:12 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Peoples Republic of Long Beach, NY
Posts: 21,140
Cool

IMO

PIAA sucks

Narva is great

I would check for voltage drop with the lights on for both hi and low
__________________
Ronin LB
'77 911s 2.7
PMO E 8.5
SSI Monty
MSD JPI
w x6
Old 11-19-2003, 07:42 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
Moses's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: I'm out there.
Posts: 13,084
Quote:
Originally posted by RoninLB
Narva is great
Wher can I get Narva bulbs? My relays are on the way.
__________________
My work here is nearly finished.
Old 11-19-2003, 08:04 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered
 
Decolliber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Iowa
Posts: 1,020
Quote:
Originally posted by RoninLB
I would check for voltage drop with the lights on for both hi and low
Please explain. Voltage drop across the fuses? For what purpose?
__________________
John C
1988 911 Carrera coupe
2002 BMW 530
Old 11-19-2003, 08:22 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
 
Decolliber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Iowa
Posts: 1,020
Quote:
Originally posted by Moses
Wher can I get Narva bulbs? My relays are on the way.
http://www.audiquattroparts.com/xenon.htm

But is this believable? (from same site):

About Narva Xenon Bulbs
New fron Narva, the next generation in automotive lighting, the xenon charged boosted bluebulb. A 30-40% increase in percieved light is the result of a new coating material that actually increases the color temperature of the bulb to move the light closer to a daylight wavelength. The xenon charged bulb is designed to replace the standard 9003, 9005, 9006, and 9004 bulb and requires no additional wiring or modification of any type.
This new bulb has been described as a "poor mans HID (High Intensity Discharge) system" and has a price of only a few dollars more than standard bulbs. The xenon charged bulbs should not be confused with blue coated bulbs currently being marketed which simply color the light blue and actually decrease the amount of light on the road. The charged bulb works on an entirely different principal. Xenon gas is used to cool the filament and allow the halogen process to produce a higher light output. The special blue coating increases the whiteness of the light with only a trace of blue at the headlight periphiary. The charged xenon bulb is manufactured in Germany.
By producing a light closer to a daylight color, these new bulbs allow the brain to process more of the information the eye recieves from the road ahead. The color of the light matches the "sweet spot" of the eye and thus more information is transmitted to the optical center of the brain. The driver as a result sees a broader patch of light directly in front of the vehicle but as distance in front of the vehicle is increased, the bulb keeps the light on the portion of the road where it's most beneificial. This asymmetry is accomplished by holding this bulb to manufacturing tolerances that were up to now considered unattainable.
Also, a significant percentage of road accidents take place because of poor driving conditions caused by bad weather and/or darkness. Furthermore, visibility needs increase with age. Compared with a 20 year old, a 30 year old requires 50% more light, a 40 year old twice the light and a 50 year old three times the light. Putting the light at the frequency humans process best results in better vision and safer driving.
__________________
John C
1988 911 Carrera coupe
2002 BMW 530

Last edited by Decolliber; 11-19-2003 at 08:50 AM..
Old 11-19-2003, 08:32 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Peoples Republic of Long Beach, NY
Posts: 21,140
Cool

Quote:
Originally posted by Moses
Wher can I get Narva bulbs?
Gotta give Pelican Parts the first shot.. Narva are german.

solder everything.

I have no experience with the new Narva xenon bulb......Ron
__________________
Ronin LB
'77 911s 2.7
PMO E 8.5
SSI Monty
MSD JPI
w x6
Old 11-19-2003, 09:13 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Nearby
Posts: 79,768
Garage
Send a message via AIM to fintstone
I have the standard Narva H4 bulbs and have been very happy with them. they even held up after a direct stone hit badly damaged a lens. They were a lot brighter after the SUCRO relay kit. I personally will wait a good while before trying the new Xenon bulbs.....in case they are just hype like the PIAAs.
__________________
74 Targa 3.0, 89 Carrera, 04 Cayenne Turbo
http://www.pelicanparts.com/gallery/fintstone/
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money"
Some are born free. Some have freedom thrust upon them. Others simply surrender
Old 11-19-2003, 09:22 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Peoples Republic of Long Beach, NY
Posts: 21,140
Cool

Quote:
Originally posted by Decolliber
Please explain. Voltage drop across the fuses? For what purpose?
Halogen are more sensitive to a lower voltage. If your circuit isn't delivering correct voltage the filiment goes kaput.

With the headlights on, test the circuit voltage.. maybe bad connections somewhere, including grounds, bulb socket connections? maybe your wires are too small in diameter for high watts?
__________________
Ronin LB
'77 911s 2.7
PMO E 8.5
SSI Monty
MSD JPI
w x6
Old 11-19-2003, 09:25 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Peoples Republic of Long Beach, NY
Posts: 21,140
Quote:
Originally posted by fintstone
I personally will wait a good while before trying the new Xenon bulbs.....in case they are just hype like the PIAAs.
ditto..

my 130/100w Narva will burn retnas in the slow left laners on high and have super great lows.......Ron
__________________
Ronin LB
'77 911s 2.7
PMO E 8.5
SSI Monty
MSD JPI
w x6
Old 11-19-2003, 09:34 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Central Kentucky
Posts: 729
ditto...ditto..
As Ron says a set of properly relayed and installed Narva 130/100's are incredible...be sure you have good lenses in front..plastic or US DOT will reduce your output and focus
__________________
Richard Lane
1978 911SC
1973 "Clean" RS clone
Old 11-19-2003, 10:37 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Posts: 6,950
I have Xenons on my X5 that I wanted to match the fogs and highs. The stock bulbs are very yellow in comparison in IMHO look like mismatched lights. I picked up some PIAA bulbs on Ebay that are a very close match. The output is very intense. The H3 bulb is an actual Japanese bulb that was a higher K output the matches more closesly the Xenons then the US brand 9005 for high beams. I've never heard about Narva prior to these post. I mostly chose PIAA because of the 100's of cheaper brands out there, it can get confusing. I'll give Narva a look for my 911.
Old 11-19-2003, 10:45 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Registered
 
Decolliber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Iowa
Posts: 1,020
Quote:
Originally posted by rlane
ditto...ditto..
As Ron says a set of properly relayed and installed Narva 130/100's are incredible
Where do you get these high wattage Narvas? I have been doing a search on the net and have found only lower wattage ones (e.g., at audiquattroparts)
__________________
John C
1988 911 Carrera coupe
2002 BMW 530
Old 11-19-2003, 10:58 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
Registered
Quote: "The xenon charged bulbs should not be confused with blue coated bulbs" Then they go on to say: "The special blue coating increases the whiteness of the light with only a trace of blue at the headlight periphiary."

This Xenon gas deal has been around for a while and IMO is Bull. They call it a poor man's HID and it's not even that. It's a colored bulb.
__________________
Warren & Ron, may you rest in Peace.
Old 11-19-2003, 11:56 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Registered
 
keagy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 145
Garage
You can get Narva Rally Clear H4 100/130w for $19 each from

www.suvlights.com

http://suvlights.tripod.com/suvlightscom/html/halogen-h4-9003-hb2.htm
__________________
Shawn Keagy
911 Speedster Slantnose

Last edited by keagy; 11-19-2003 at 12:09 PM..
Old 11-19-2003, 12:06 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Nearby
Posts: 79,768
Garage
Send a message via AIM to fintstone
I have been using NARVAs, but now I have some Hellas on order to try out. Found them for less than half the price.
__________________
74 Targa 3.0, 89 Carrera, 04 Cayenne Turbo
http://www.pelicanparts.com/gallery/fintstone/
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money"
Some are born free. Some have freedom thrust upon them. Others simply surrender
Old 11-19-2003, 02:00 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Central Kentucky
Posts: 729
Check out Dan Sterns site, he sells everything you need...plus has great info that dispels a whole lot of myths about auto lighting.

http://lighting.mbz.org/home.html
__________________
Richard Lane
1978 911SC
1973 "Clean" RS clone
Old 11-19-2003, 02:30 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Peoples Republic of Long Beach, NY
Posts: 21,140
Cool

Quote:
Originally posted by rlane
Check out Dan Sterns site, he sells everything you need...plus has great info that dispels a whole lot of myths about auto lighting.

http://lighting.mbz.org/home.html

ditto
__________________
Ronin LB
'77 911s 2.7
PMO E 8.5
SSI Monty
MSD JPI
w x6
Old 11-19-2003, 08:51 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
Registered
 
MIK911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: SoBay, SoCal
Posts: 1,369
Can someone describe how to hook up the sucro relay? Since i'm electronically impaired, please describe in idiot proof lingo.
Are the Narva 100 w bulbs avail for H1 lowbeams?
Thanks
mik
__________________
Mike
'86 911 coupe
'85 BMW 535i
'11 Cayenne
Old 11-19-2003, 11:18 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: MA USA
Posts: 2,938
If you buy cheep bulbs they won't last long. I once bought a set of bulbs from Tweeks. They lasted 20 mins.
__________________
Dean
911 SC turbo, 3.0L 930 motor, G50, 930 brakes, DTA EFI, 352 RWHP DynoDynamic dyno,
Old 11-20-2003, 03:51 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Peoples Republic of Long Beach, NY
Posts: 21,140
Cool

Quote:
Originally posted by MIK911
Can someone describe how to hook up the sucro relay?

Are the Narva 100 w bulbs avail for H1 lowbeams?


http://lighting.mbz.org/home.html

__________________
Ronin LB
'77 911s 2.7
PMO E 8.5
SSI Monty
MSD JPI
w x6
Old 11-20-2003, 06:15 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:17 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.