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cegerer 12-21-2003 03:57 PM

Nobody buys a Rolex to tell time. And nobody buys a Porsche for transportation. And I bid $1500 on the Rolex, maybe a little more if it's a Daytona ........

swbsam 12-21-2003 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by cegerer
Nobody buys a Rolex to tell time. And nobody buys a Porsche for transportation. And I bid $1500 on the Rolex, maybe a little more if it's a Daytona ........
comming from the man with steve McQueens watch I'd say he knows what he's talking about.

1650.00 and not a dollar more !!!

Harlan Chinn 12-21-2003 06:18 PM

WSP aircraft fly above almost parallel with a stop watch and observe cars and painted stripe ticks next to the shoulders of the highway. Get to the next set of marks too soon and you're toast.

speeder 12-21-2003 06:51 PM

I got one of those aircraft tickets on the 101 between San Francisco and L.A. back in the 80's. They even had signs that said, "patrolled by aircraft", or something similar. I saw what looked like a crop duster flying next to me at one point and didn't think twice about it. Later I realised what a dip***** I had been, what did I think that they used, F-15s?? :rolleyes:

cstreit 12-21-2003 08:32 PM

Sam,

I got a Volex that I'll sell you for $999.00 and a really nice Rolec for $849... Just let me know. I'll ship for free.

I'm a Breitling man m'self... Rolex is just a bit to... well... Rolex for me.

I give people the same advice on Radar detectors as I do on helmets.
"Spend what you think the protection is worth. "

ZOA NOM 12-21-2003 09:31 PM

Breitling, now there's a man who knows his watches.

Neilk 12-21-2003 10:00 PM

But if you have a V1 and you get a weak radar signal from the rear, you know there is nothing to worry about. You can just accelerate to get away from the annoying beeps. :D

RoninLB 12-22-2003 01:53 AM

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Originally posted by Neilk
But if you have a V1 and you get a weak radar signal from the rear, you know there is nothing to worry about. You can just accelerate to get away from the annoying beeps. :D
or you can relax because you have plenty of time to react. The closing rate is relatively very slow. Mid state Calif on I-5 CHP likes that routine, probably because of the many cars on the road.

larry47us 12-22-2003 03:22 AM

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Originally posted by cstreit
I'm a Breitling man m'self... Rolex is just a bit to... well... Rolex for me.
Watches on a Porsche site? Well . . . . my watch is a 30 year old Omega Cronograph. Flawless timing, and I keep it up just like I expect I will my 73E. And it's my "daily driver" -- the watch, that is.

For me the Breitling just got too difficult to read. Old eyes, small dials, lots of metal. Didn't work.

larry

cegerer 12-22-2003 03:49 AM

<i>"Rolex is just a bit to... well... Rolex for me."</i>

Exactly. An absolutely fantastic watch, but the image??? No thanks. I like some of the Brietlings, although many are a bit too 'busy' looking. I've got 6 watches in my collection right now - all mechanical of course! Next will be either a Mühle Glashütte or a Fortis ......

Weren't we talking about radar detectors? Oh yeah, I've got an old Cobra that works OK, but I really need to upgrade to a V1!!

RoninLB 12-22-2003 04:00 AM

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Originally posted by cegerer
[B I've got an old Cobra that works OK, but I really need to upgrade to a V1!! [/B]
IMHO, the V-1 is more relaxing.. a laser jammer would be nice also

cegerer 12-22-2003 06:48 AM

I've actually had many situations where I wished I had the arrows. i.e. detector going off but no clue where the cop was .....

jess5engine 12-22-2003 03:42 PM

Two speeding tickets both times had V1 on, but CHP not using radar either times. First time CHP parked on overpass and must have spotted me in fast lane. He easily made a left turn onto freeway and nabbed me two miles down the road. Second time CHP on motorcylce in slow lane in front of big rig just waiting for speeders to zoom by (that's me). I was told both times they followed and gauged my speed using their speedometer. I have my VI hardwired in my glovebox and when pulled over simply shut the glovebox door. Thank god they didn't see the V1 Lessons learned:

- That's why they're called Radar Detectors not Cop Detectors.
- Be pleasant and courteous and admit to your lapse of bad judgement to the CHP and get only a speeding ticket (as opposed to reckless, excessive display of speed, etc)

swbsam 12-22-2003 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by jess5engine
I have my VI hardwired in my glovebox and when pulled over simply shut the glovebox door. Thank god they didn't see the V1
since when are V1's illegal ?

stormcrow 12-22-2003 05:36 PM

I've got two (2) V-1's, one Passport 8500 and one BCT-12. V-1 will pick up a signal on a straight run two miles away. Passport 8500 same. BCT-12 picks radio transmissions up to 25 miles away. Lets you know where they are and what they are doing.

Solution - get a scanner to go with the V-1 or Passport 8500.

Steve

A Porsche does more then just go fast in a straight line"

rdane 12-22-2003 06:45 PM

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Hey Dane is the plane following parallel to the interstate ?
No actually it wasn't parallel to the car as I have typically seen them. This one was off to the right. The reason I would believe they were using radar is I saw the plane and then saw a red flash indicative of a lazer. Radar? I thought so, since there was a multi car WSP speed trap happening along the same section of the highway and no one running radar, just the troops writing tickets. My valentine picked up a couple of quick shots from the right, different enough that drew my attention to that direction.

Nothing there but blue sky and a Cessna 180 at 1500 feet or so.

As far as Rolexs go.....what ever the brand name's reputation is in your circles...it is first "the" tool watch. It has been the most reliable time piece available in a couple of forms, Sub, Seadweller, Explorer and GMT for 50 years. It hasn't been until recently that the any other mechnical watches (Omega being the rare exception in a chrono ) or a quartz watch have been able to keep up for durability.

The Daytona is a gimic watch. But only because Rolex has made it so by marketing. If you need a mechanical chronograph there isn't anything better. They are damn hard to read however. There are other mechnical chrono I prefer.

So while you might sneer at Rolex for any number of reasons you'd be a fool to dismiss them as a bad watch. Over priced? Maybe but not in comparison to the watches that attempt to directly compete with them. They have more in common with Porsche than some are willing to admit.

Both build the best of their market with superior engineering, well thought out models, seldom change those same models for years cosmetically while improving them internally and always charge a premium price by controling the marketing and production numbers of an excellent product.

RoninLB 12-22-2003 07:14 PM

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Originally posted by rdane
No actually it wasn't parallel to the car as I have typically seen them. This one was off to the right. The reason I would believe they were using radar is I saw the plane and then saw a red flash indicative of a lazer. Radar? I thought so, since there was a multi car WSP speed trap happening along the same section of the highway and no one running radar, just the troops writing tickets. My valentine picked up a couple of quick shots from the right, different enough that drew my attention to that direction.

Nothing there but blue sky and a Cessna 180 at 1500 feet or so.

As far as Rolexs go.....what ever the brand name's reputation is in your circles...it is first "the" tool watch.

WOW,
great plane info. I Never would have figured that out.

and I always wanted the Rolex SubM but I happen to destroy any orniments. I even tried wearing a low key WOP necklace and was getting it soldered every few months. I can't even wear a ring.

Brian Cameron 12-22-2003 07:14 PM

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Originally posted by cstreit

I'm a Breitling man m'self... Rolex is just a bit to... well... Rolex for me.

Make mine a Patek Philippe. Hardly anyone's heard of 'em but a nice one costs more than a GT3. Hey, everybody's got to have a fantasy.
Of course, for those of us on an SC budget, there's the Timex. Much like the SC, it takes a licking, but keeps on ticking. http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/smash.gif

larry47us 12-22-2003 07:17 PM

Old Beemer Rolex Joke
 
So, there is this Yuppie standing next to his 5 series after the accident, when the police pull up and start taking the information. The 5 is standing there without a driver's door, and while the police are standing there trying to get the info on the accident, all the guy can do is lament what happened to his Beemer.

The police sneer at him, "Geez you're shallow, you have been standing here with your car, and all you can do is complain about how your door is missing. Didn't you even notice that your left arm is torn off?"

"OH MY G-D ------- MY ROLEX!!!!!"

Seemed appropriate for this thread.

larry

surflvr911sc 12-22-2003 07:20 PM

My Swiss Army watch works just fine for me. When I need a beer, it says its time and helps me open it!

I like my V1 too.

RoninLB 12-22-2003 07:21 PM

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Originally posted by stormcrow
BCT-12 picks radio transmissions up to 25 miles away. Lets you know where they are and what they are doing.


Will do the BCT-12..
I remember you mentioning it awhile ago and took note. I had the obsolete BCT-7 on my last big ride and thought I had the right unit. It was a waste of time. I should toss it to Warren for no $ so he can work his magic.

Does the BCT-12 have an alert tone if PD is close by ? The BCT-7 did that in days of old.

MotoSook 12-22-2003 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by RoninLB


Does the BCT-12 have an alert tone if PD is close by ? The BCT-7 did that in days of old.

Ron, the BCT-12 is the small and windshield mounted. Not programable. Same alert features as the BCT-7.

I have the current BCT-7 with 100 channel user programmable in adition to alert. You can find new ones cheap online. I think i pay 129 for mine. It is what it is, and it won't be 100% effective.

What's this about Warren's magic with the BCT-7?????

cstreit 12-22-2003 07:31 PM

I'd like to hear about Warren's hocus pocus as well.

RoninLB 12-22-2003 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by Souk
Ron, the BCT-12 is the small and windshield mounted. Not programable. Same alert features as the BCT-7.

I have the current BCT-7 with 100 channel user programmable in adition to alert. You can find new ones cheap online. I think i pay 129 for mine. It is what it is, and it won't be 100% effective.

What's this about Warren's magic with the BCT-7?????

OK.. I didn't know the BCT-12 has the alert..

I think the BCT-7 wouldn't work anymore because it wasn't configured for trunking.

I thought of Warren because he seems to be up on current electronics or knows a friend who is.

MotoSook 12-22-2003 07:38 PM

I'll have to look at my manual for the BCT7, but I think they took into account trunking.

I like the BCT7 because it cna be programmed when freq's change. The current model is very versitile. I've got a pdf of the manual if you are interested.

MotoSook 12-22-2003 07:42 PM

Guess, scanners are just not capable..better get Warren on the line
 
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RoninLB 12-22-2003 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by Souk
I've got a pdf of the manual if you are interested.
I've got the manual.. but 30 channels for one area, when I'm ridding cross country is impossible. I was hoping the BCT-12 took all that into consideration and I would only have to change the state I'm in like the BCT-7. I can get the radio frequencys.. I live in Metro NY and the alert won't do me any good around here.

MotoSook 12-22-2003 07:55 PM

That's why you should have taken me on as a co-pilot. I'm good with 50X binocs at spotting bogies :D

I mostly use the BearTracker to build a mental picture of where the squards are..the ones that I pick up.

The alert only works if the squard has a repeater and if the radio is used anyway...every little bit counts.

RoninLB 12-22-2003 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by Souk
The alert only works if the squard has a repeater and if the radio is used anyway...every little bit counts.
to my understanding anytime the radio is used Anywhere in the whole county or state every patrol car repeater is triggered. That's in the instructions. If I understood it correctly, not sure.

So the close PD unit doesn't have to be using it.

MotoSook 12-22-2003 08:07 PM

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Originally posted by RoninLB
to my understanding anytime the radio is used Anywhere in the whole county or state every patrol car repeater is triggered. That's in the instructions. If I understood it correctly, not sure.

So the close PD unit doesn't have to be using it.

Not all patrol cars have repeaters..as I understand it. I drive by the village HQ everyday and I can listen to them, but the HWY doesn't go off.

MotoSook 12-22-2003 08:08 PM

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JeremyD 12-22-2003 08:11 PM

I have had my rolex, on my wrist for the past 20 years last month. That brings down the TCO (total cost of ownership) - it's just a SS Datejust - but looks like new - Just like my 16 year old Porsche! - V1 sounds like the way to go... Anybody else to consider? I'd really love to hardwire one in...

RoninLB 12-22-2003 08:21 PM

Hey Souk,
I can't find the hard info that led me to believe the BCT-7 is obsolete now. At one time you could dial in the state and would be able to be notified with the alert.

jyl 12-22-2003 08:30 PM

Those of you who have had experience with both a V1 and a BCT-7/12 . . . which would you get, if you could get only one?

I'd use it in two situations.

First, when I'm in dense urban areas (SF Bay Area). Will the BCT-7/12 be going off constantly so as to be useless? On the other hand, do the PDs and CHPs in the SF Bay Area use mostly laser so that the V1 will be useless too?

Second, on trips around California. So, highway and rural two-lanes.

starlifter1 12-23-2003 12:45 AM

Now you got me what is a BCT 7/12

thrown_hammer 12-23-2003 05:10 AM

I have a Passport. Sometimes I think i want a V1. The arrows would be nice but if the detector goes off i am slowing down. I think the arrows are a bit of a novelty. How many people are speeding when the V1 goes off and say " Oh the radar is behind me...I think I will keep it hammered". My passport can track like 8 signals simultaneously.

reesestewww 12-23-2003 05:39 AM

It's A Real Easy Choice
 
Get a V1!
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swbsam 12-23-2003 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by thrown_hammer
I have a Passport. Sometimes I think i want a V1. The arrows would be nice but if the detector goes off i am slowing down. I think the arrows are a bit of a novelty.
think of it this way.... your doing 90, your way out in front of other traffic, your V1 goes off telling you he's up ahead waiting for you, as your porsche passes him he nails you because your the first car he spots after his radar goes off, if you knew he was up ahead you could have pulled over let other traffic go by and not gotten a ticket


on the other hand your doing 130, and your V1 goes off telling you he's behind you, you kick it down to 65 and move over to the right lane as fast as you can, by the time he gets up to you what can he do, he has no way to prove which car was speeding.

both of these have happend to me, not knowing is not knowing , one other little thing about the V1, you can set it to only pick up only the signals you want it to, many people don't like radar detectors because they go off every time you pass a shopping center or other places using x or k band radar I set mine to only pick up KA and laser, when I get a hit, it's for real.

I'm sure the Passport does a good job for what it costs but after owning a V1 I wouldn't want to be without it.

84toy 12-23-2003 07:08 AM

I have have not tried other detectors other than the V-1. I'ts great. Here is an experience....I was coming down from Lake Tahoe at about 2:00am doing about 80mph, not a bit of traffic. As I passed under an overcrossing the V-1 went off with a rear arrow but there were no cars behind me but I downshifted quickly and stayed off the brakes anyway. A minute later lights came on right behind me. It was a cop who saw me and jumped on the freeway WITH HIS LIGHTS OFF!! He pulled up next to me, looked and drove on.....I would have had a major ticket I am sure without the V-1. There may be other detectors out there that work very good as well

cicsprog 12-23-2003 09:43 AM

My CAB mount of V1. Steering Column and passenger visor.

Jason
88 Cab

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