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Mikkel 01-20-2004 12:37 PM

We've all seen the 959 replicas - what about this GT1
 
http://adcache.collectorcartraderonline.com/10/5/4/64041654.htm

masraum 01-20-2004 12:46 PM

Don't like it, doesn't look quite right, and looks too kit-ish

Rot 911 01-20-2004 12:50 PM

It looks like the back is a solid piece. How would you access the engine?

v9ff 01-20-2004 12:57 PM

Man... that thing is loooooong! Even those huge wheels can't fill the wheel well. I've seen a pretty good Carrera GT kit car a little while ago.

Mr9146 01-20-2004 12:58 PM

Don't even get me started ... http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/shake.gif

RickM 01-20-2004 01:22 PM

Looks too long and flat.

widebody911 01-20-2004 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kurt V
It looks like the back is a solid piece. How would you access the engine?
"No user-servicable parts inside."

Slant930 01-20-2004 01:46 PM

I've seen that "thing" before. It ain't pretty my friends. The wheelbase is was off for that body. It reminds me of those Fiero-Testarossa kit cars. 'Nuff said.

Timothy

FenderGuy 01-20-2004 01:51 PM

that car is a insult to the gt1 in so many ways

D Hanson 01-20-2004 02:12 PM

I think the real car looks like ****. This is just worse.

exc911ence 01-20-2004 02:37 PM

This one's better:

http://www.patritti.com/categories.asp?cat=12

At least there's a 996 under there!

:)

cegerer 01-20-2004 03:47 PM

That looks really bad!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1074645978.jpg

Here's a couple of shots I took at Rennsport of the real deal:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1074646014.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1074646038.jpg

Victor 01-20-2004 04:11 PM

Imagine the embarrasment when that whole body kit peels off at 65MPH revealing a cruddy 914.

TRE Cup 01-20-2004 05:15 PM

The Patritti one is off on dimensions, but it looks proportional and the workmanship is pretty nice. The original is too aggressive looking as a street car, anyway. Oh well.. to each his own

m325ix 01-20-2004 07:56 PM

http://www.patritti.com advertises in excellence this month, I saw his car last summer, it's not bad, I liked it more than any other 'kit' car I saw, except for the 356 speedster replica

Wrecked944 01-22-2004 08:49 AM

Is the Patritti car a mid-engine conversion of 996? It looks nice, but it would seem to be sort of pointless to replicate a GT1 without putting the motor in the proper place. And cegerer is right about the kit car. It looks awful. The rear wheel appears to be too far forward in the wheel well - as though the kit were designed for a car with a longer wheel base. Does anyone make a gt1 replica with a stretched 911 chassis and mid-engine design? If not, then it would seem like a waste of time to cover up a perfectly nice porsche body with so much fiberglass with no performance enhancements.

911pcars 01-22-2004 01:49 PM

I like it. This is the working part of the Patritti car:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1074811752.jpg

Sherwood

cegerer 01-22-2004 06:42 PM

Here's a couple of photos of the GT1 actually on the street!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1074829318.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1074829340.jpg

Victor 01-22-2004 06:43 PM

Was that the car for sale in New Zealand?

cegerer 01-22-2004 06:45 PM

Not sure where I got those from, but that rings a bell ....

jyl 01-22-2004 07:45 PM

The first kit looks wrong - the wheelbase is just too short. The second car looks wrong - the whole car is too short.

The real GT1 is beautiful in its own racer way, IMO. I saw them race at Le Mans in 1997 - both GT1s retired, Joest won with an open Porsche-engined prototype despite being denied parts or assistance by the factory - and the GT1s were stunning. They won the next year, of course.

Even if you don't like the looks of the GT1, you can't deny the significance of the car. The GT1 represents the - last - time - Porsche - won - Le - Mans - sob - [turns away]

geof33 01-22-2004 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jyl
Even if you don't like the looks of the GT1, you can't deny the significance of the car. The GT1 represents the - last - time - Porsche - won - Le - Mans - sob - [turns away]
Not in this body style tho'... the GT1 EVO was the best version of the car in my opinion. Harken'd back the Can Am/917 racer days. Great car... Very fast.

BTW the original posted car looks like *****. The Petrini (sp?) TT is really sweet!!! Great rear shot.:cool:

RickM 01-23-2004 05:32 AM

The Patritti is 11" LONGER that the base car!

A bit too bling for me.

svandamme 01-23-2004 06:03 AM

Quote:

Owners of 914/4's should consider converting your 4 banger to a 911 six, with the looks and styling of this body kit, you will want the performance to match it
yeah right, as if any of the stock six bangers has the performance of the GT1 to match the looks of a GT1

Wrecked944 01-23-2004 07:54 AM

Are there any websites out there that have info on the real GT1? Cutaway diagrams? Development story? Racing history? Engine and chassis pics? It seems like the 917 is the star of the Porsche world while the GT1 is relatively ignored. I googled "porsche GT1" and found surprisingly little info.

svandamme 01-23-2004 07:58 AM

i think the 917 had a longer lifespan, more versions, more victories , more power , more everything...

911pcars 01-23-2004 09:12 AM

Like most modern day race cars, their competitive life span is short. The GT1, after a year, was outclassed by its replacement. As I remember, private customers, who received their GT1 a year later, weren't too happy with their lack of competitive speed.

Back in the days of the 917, there weren't too many international players outside of Ferrari, and only McClaren and Lola in the CanAm series.

Sherwood

Wrecked944 01-24-2004 02:31 PM

I hope I'm not beating a dead kitcar by reviving this thread but...I stumbled upon some specs on the 911, 914, boxster, and GT1 and figured I'd share them for comparison....

I couldn't help but notice that the kitcar GT1 looked like the rear wheels were set too far forward in the body. And now I may have a clue why. It seems the wheelbase on a standard 74-89 911 is something like 2271mm. But the wheelbase on the GT1 was a full 2870mm. That converts to roughly two feet longer for the GT1 wheelbase. YOUCH !! So if the kit was even roughly sized correctly to the GT1, then the 911 would be dwarfed underneath it. Even a 914 has a wheel base of just (I think) 2449m (and the boxster is just 2413mm) - but at least you'd have the motor in the correct location. So unless you are willing to somehow streeeetch the frame of a production porsche, which seems like a really nutty plan, then your GT1 kitcar will almost certainly look awkward at best. Or somebody with welding skills could build a tubular frame like the guy who built the 910 in Excellence. But that seems really hard.

Nothing against kit cars. I'd gladly try a GT1 if it were feasible. But this seems to be a "Kit Too Far".

911pcars 01-24-2004 03:02 PM

Good observation Janus.

The builder should have noticed this too and replicated the body so it proportionally fit the chassis wheelbase instead of blindly keeping the same dimensions and made the wheel wells openings wherever they happened to be. Nothing says a knockoff kit has to be exactly like the original car. Look at the new Ford GT. Lots of different skill sets necessary to be a succesful kit builder.

Somebody made a comment about "bling" (maybe not). If the GT1 isn't bling, I don't know what is. In this case, I'll define bling as attention-getting rather than ostentatious decoration.

Sherwood

svandamme 01-24-2004 03:21 PM

Quote:

I'll define bling as attention-getting rather than ostentatious decoration.

so with the attention my stock 73 targa get's at the stop light, it would also be bling??

911pcars 01-24-2004 05:35 PM

svandamme,
If your Targa gets as much attention as a GT1, I congratulate you and your car. Out where I live, Pcars are a dime a dozen. Mini Coopers get more looks; or maybe its just my car.

Sherwood
http://members.rennlist.org/911pcars

svandamme 01-24-2004 06:18 PM

i'm not saying mine get's that much attention as a GT1
but it does get attention, old 911's aren't rare over here, but they surely are not a dime in a dozen.

but according to your (re-)definition of the term bling, mine would fall in this category.
maybe not bling bling bling, but still bling because it does attracts some attention.

the word bling comes from the rapsters you guys have running loose, the sort that wears diamonds on one finger worth more than our average P-cars cost, it does mean over the top decoration, something without any function other than decoration.

the word for the GT1 would be exotic, since i doubt there is much to find on a GT1 that doesn't have function in a fast car, like cup holders of plasma dvd playstation crap. or diamond spinning rimms


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