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OH the humanity, please help me decide...

So it has come down to this, after 4 years of daily driving a 1983 Sc cab, I've decided it's time for a change.

I'd like a little more power, decent a/c in the summer, good heat in the winter, but the same feel as my SC. I've narrowed my choices down to 3.

which car should i buy as a daily driver? budget 30-35K

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Old 01-30-2004, 10:09 PM
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Decent AC? That knocks out 87-89.
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Where do you live? Decent A/C is all relative
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The 993 would be a pretty bad one for 35k. No ragtop for sure. Anything below 40k is hard to find. The 993 was made 95-98, btw.

I'd stay with the SC. It looks practically identical to the Carrera and for not too much money you could wake it up considerably. I am thinking SSI and sport muffler and some better cams might be all you need. SSI exchangers deliver excellent heat, bettter than stock. And then for the AC, there are better aftermarket units out there. Do a search. I'd say for 5-10k total, you could make your SC exactly what you want!

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The 993 would be a pretty bad one for 35k. No ragtop for sure. Anything below 40k is hard to find. The 993 was made 95-98, btw.
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I'm seeing nice '95 993 coupes for the low to mid-30s. A little lower and I'm pulling the trigger!
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George has a good point.

Nothing like 'the devil you know'.

You can get more out of the A/C with stuff from several suppliers, like Performance Aire. Adding power is tougher, but it can be done. For some people, it's easier to subtract weight.
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964s are not an option?
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I'm seeing nice '95 993 coupes for the low to mid-30s. A little lower and I'm pulling the trigger!
Have you ever looked at one of those cars or are these asking prices in ads? Even in the rock bottom 911 priced Bay Area, 35k will not buy you a decent 993. Once you start asking questions, or look more closely into those cheap 993s, you find replacement engines, salvage titles, repaints etc. That's at least my experience. Nothing wrong with buying such a car, but I have a problem with spending 30k on something with a rough history.

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A guy I know through the local PCA bought a nice blue 95 coupe for $32K last year. Nice car, no issues. I can't explain the market in CA.

Here's one for under $30K (higher miles). Autotrader

Here's a dealer car for $32.5K (37,000) - the comment section sound shady though don't you think?
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Another for $34K (38,000)
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Granted I haven't researched these cars...but would be worth a drive to go kick the tires.
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There seem to be more and more low mileage 993's in the mid to low 30's, as time goes on I am getting more and more tempted to talk myself into one
The problem is when we try to justify one, as there are many more practical, faster and cheaper cars out there.
What about the 964 turbo with the old 3.3 engine. Seems a nice car? power, a/c, heat, performance brakes/suspension etc.
If A/C is an issue, one note is DO NOT buy a 911 with a black interior!!!. My 86ragtop had reasonable A/C but in S Florida the black dash and interior was more powerfull than the A/C.
Get a car with a 'biscuit' brown or whatever it was called interior.
- If I was to pick one of the 4 it would be the 993
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964! Strip it down to SC weight; remove the P/S pump, heater blower (RS style), B&B exhaust, interior, etc, then spend $2k on the A/C.

That would be a ton of car for the money.
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and 993 cabs are very plentiful...in fact, there seem to be many more cabs that coupes available right now. And I think the cabs are actually cheaper than coupes.
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I just hope you guys are right. That way, the 993 will be at SC prices soon, so I can probably find someone that will do an even trade giving me one of those non desireable 993 cabriolets for my 81 coupe!

A guy on our street just bought a 98 993 widebody (S) with 17k miles, tiptronic for roughly 60k! I guess the wide body and the ultra low miles made it special. But what's up with the auto? That should really deduct some $.

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I wouldn't go that far, and S models will always command a premium. But the last time I looked on eBay there were a bunch of 993 cabs, and they were all south of $40K.

As for what to get, I've ran these numbers a bunch of times. The way I figure, I'd be looking at about a $15-20K difference between my car and a good 993. So that money gets me a more modern car with more power and amenities. That's a plus. But I have a feeling that the 993s are heading into the more expensive repair zone...seems like at about 10 years things start needing to be replaced. On my SC I've had a bunch of stuff swapped out already. With the right 993 you could be in the same ballpark, but you'll still have a few odds and ends to sort out (and more if you believe that the engines have weak valve guides or carbon gunk issues). So I'm out $20K and still will be sinking money into the car. As Bill said, "devil you know." That same $20K would keep the SC running for a lot of years...
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I'd like a little more power, decent a/c in the summer, good heat in the winter, but the same feel as my SC.
Seems to me that you're going to have to further drill down as to what your true priorities are, or, at a minimum, arrange their significance.

A 993 will provide more power and marginally better A/C, (but no better heat) but...will have a significantly different "feel" from an SC. Not better or worse, but, truly, quite different.

Which of your criteria matters most?

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Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if you eliminated the 993 choice once you drove one. The 964 sounds just right. I'd say the one thing that doesn't fit your criteria is the "little more power" because it has a lot more power.

Oops, there's another criteria miss - you will have too much money left over after you buy it. Guess you'll need to also buy a 944 Turbo S or M3 to thrash on the track.
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Adding power is tougher, but it can be done. For some people, it's easier to subtract weight.
What are some things to remove/replace to cut down on weight for an SC?
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Ive been looking at later model 911 cars , and found the best pricing is for the newest car would be for 1999 , 911 cars .. you can get a deceint one for 35k +- the 993 cars seem to be more exspensive then the newer 1999 + cars

so basically if you have 35k to spend on a car you can get
one of these ....
1999 911 water pumper
1995 993 .. if you look hard for a good car
2000 - 2001 boxter S in awesome shape
1985 - 89 > 930 turbo a mint example

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I agree w/Povi...

As far as value goes, the 1999 996's seem to be the car currently.

I personally don't like the looks as much as a 993, but it is much newer and civilized.

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I did not vote....you did not have a space for early S with MFI.....
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