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Better Air-con anyone?
In my quest for significantly better Air-con performance, I came across some postings referencing PerformanceAire's under-pan static condensor, or to use the 964 fender based condensor.
PerformanceAire's unit is not designed for G50 based 911's because of a hump in the floor pan that stops it from being a flush mount. The 964 method is a good solution, but will require some modifications and relocation of existing hardware in the left fender. Anyway, I just had a chat to Todd Knighton of Protomotive and they sell a 6x8 static condensor which works for G50 based cars and is only $500 + A/C hoses! This kit apparently cools just as good as a fridge  Here are some pics for those interested:  
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good god what does that thing weigh!?
Looks like the owner of that car added the turbo to help carry all that extra AC weight! 
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Correction - TURBOS! That is a twin turbo setup my friend
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Looks like that's a conventional condenser, which will make it susceptible to road debris. The Performance Aire condenser is heavy duty, and almost bulletproof.
I added a condenser in my front left fender, and am very happy with the results.
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Scott, I think I caught your posts when you were exploring putting the condensor in the left front fender. What did you finally settle on...the C2 system, or did you find an aftermarket solution. Since the AC is my next big project, I'm really interested in your solution. Would moving the front condenser to the fender plus a fan worK?
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Rob:
I used a kit from www.iceac.com. It wasn't exactly a "turnkey" system, but it fit up in the fender nicely. I had to fabricate some brackets, and the hoses needed to be re-worked by a local a/c shop. I powered the fan off the battery, and installed a relay that is triggered by the power to the front condenser. I left the front condenser in place, and now the system has three condensers. I removed the washer bottle, and added a JC Whitney washer bottle inside the trunk. I replaced the vapor recovery cannister with a smaller catch can. I also added a ProCooler. I think the operation was a resounding success. On hot Southern California days, I get vent temps in the 30s, even in traffic.
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1976 Porsche 911 S '79 3.0
1986 944 
1983 Porsche 911 SC ROW 3L
