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Formerly Steve Wilkinson 04-27-2004 12:41 PM

Key-on-the-left lore a canard?
 
At least in part because I make a big deal of it in my new book "The Gold-Plated Porsche," I've been wondering...many of us have been recounting for years the lore that a Porsche's key is on the left because at Le Mans, this allowed a driver to crank the starter with the left hand and put it into gear with the right.

Does anybody know for a fact that there was a Le Mans rule specifying that a car had to be in neutral while it awaited the driver? If there wasn't, you could put the gearbox into first well before the start, jump in and dump the clutch, then start with a key on the right just as well.

And if there _was_ a rule, how on earth did they enforce it? Could a scrutineer on the pit wall, or wherever, possibly look into the cockpit and determine that the shifter was in neutral?

Is this our very own urban legend?

Stephan

B D 04-27-2004 12:58 PM

Good point and you usually open and close the door with your left hand, unless it's a RHD. HMMM?

ubiquity0 04-27-2004 01:08 PM

Maybe the starter motors on Le Mans cars are not always powerful enough to crank over those engines in gear??

CHILI 04-27-2004 01:10 PM

Although I've heard the Le Mans reason for the key position, I've never heard it was because the driver could use his right hand to put the car in gear. I assumed it was because it's easier to start the car with this location vs. having to reach around the wheel (while getting in) to the right side. Ergo the driver can start the car a fraction of a second sooner.

Bill Verburg 04-27-2004 01:19 PM

Steves description is the one I have heard for lo these many yrs.:)

Dantilla 04-27-2004 01:36 PM

Was Butzi left-handed?

BlueSkyJaunte 04-27-2004 01:38 PM

No, but I am, and they clearly designed their cars with me in mind. ;)

}{arlequin 04-27-2004 01:56 PM

I agree with CHILI. Since you don't have to reach around the steering wheel you can start the car WHILE ENTERING the vehicle instead of being seated or almost seated to reach it. I never knew/heard the part about the cars being in 1st gear. Maybe they were in gear so they wouldn't roll back towards the pit wall? :) Few race cars have parking brakes. Never seen it in person, but I'm assuming there may be a slight gradient (crown) on the surface for drainage of rainwater. I know it's a far-fetched theory......

juanbenae 04-27-2004 02:08 PM

its a free hand for the cup holder thing.....

911ctS 04-27-2004 02:46 PM

If you launch the car hard enough from a stand still the door will close automaticly.:)

Todd Simpson 04-27-2004 02:55 PM

As long as we're asking questions, why did Porsche put keys in its racecars?

arerrac 04-27-2004 03:01 PM

I thought most of their first LeMans racers weren't coups. I dont think they opened doors, they just jumped in and in one fail swoop started the car and put it in gear.

That's what it looks like in some of the early footage I have seen.

-W

goliver 04-27-2004 03:27 PM

It does give Porsche a neat little difference kinda like Saab with the key on the floor.

Cheers,

Geoff

john70t 04-27-2004 03:28 PM

If the Le Mans thing were true why didn't they go furthur and make the ig. switch bezel cone-shaped so they couldn't miss, or leave the ig. on and add the standard push-button starter switch?
It could be they wanted to keep any psychological distraction from the right foot, or they did it just to be different.

masraum 04-27-2004 03:29 PM

Weren't most of Porsche's race cars also street cars?? 904 and 906 were technically street cars weren't they? As well as several other cars since they were supposed to be street cars with racing aspirations.

DanTheCat 04-27-2004 03:48 PM

I don't know why it's on the left, but I just thought I'd throw out the fact that my '69 datsun roadster has the ignition on the left too.

How many other cars had the ignition on the left?

Dan :)

pwd72s 04-27-2004 04:25 PM

My suspicion is so little Johnny or Sarah wouldn't grab the keys while daddy or mommy was driving. The heater controls reason doesn't work, because the sliding levers didn't appear until the '69 model year...

Adam 04-27-2004 04:36 PM

RHD 911s have the ignition key in the "normal" place. ;)

It's probably for some reason of symmetry with regard to production. If they keep the controls roughly the same distance from the centreline (wiring looms etc), they can then just flip most parts over 180º and re-use them, rather than re-tool for a different market.

A Quiet Boom 04-27-2004 05:00 PM

I would think you could start the car while releasing the E-brake and drop the car into gear before taking off. I also think they would have left the key in the ignition so that the drive could jump in and use both hands to get the car moving quickly.

nigel911 04-27-2004 05:08 PM

Is anyone else seeing a repeated image of a set of 7R cases on this post?


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