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What jack to use for engine drop?
Looks like I need to order a new jack since my cheap POS is leaving puddles just like my car. I was wondering what other people have used to drop the engine. I am looking at this for the lift hight but not sure if it's overkill.
http://www.drivewerks.com/catalog/shopcart/TOOL/POR_TOOL_ACHyd1_pg1.htm Appreciate the help. Thanks, |
For engines, any jack will do since the engine weighs about 500 lbs. The SEARS aluminum jack was nice since is weighs about 35lbs and is much more easily moved then the steel one that weighs 100lbs.
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Jay, The one you link to is a beautiful garage jack. Pretty much the ultimate if weight is not a consideration.
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Removing the motor involved jacking the car up and off the motor at one point so high lift is important. The Sears aluminum jack is a nice looking POS just like the other $100 Chinese aluminum jacks. They are fine for occasional track use but the poor quality Chinese hydraulics/seals will be leaking in a few years just like your current one.
My friend has one of those AC Hydraulics jacks and it is very nice. -Chris |
I used two $50 orange Harbor Freight jacks; one borrowed and one my own. I placed one jack under the engine and used the other jack to lift the car. Three jacks would have been ideal. That way I would not have had to keep moving the jack from one side of the car to the other.
-Brad http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=4172 |
How do you balance the engine on the jack? Is there an adapter of some sort?
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Some people have used ATV jacks, like this one: ATV Jack
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I used an ATV jack. It worked very well. Unfortunately, unless you work on motorcycles or ATV's it has limited other uses.
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Take a look at the Craftsman motocycle/ATV/riding-mower jack. It's only $199 and is sure as hell what I'll use next time, having already once gone through the circus trick of balancing an engine on a floor jack. Never again. At that price, it makes no never-mind that I don't own a motorcycle, ATV or riding mower.
Stephan |
Scott, funny you should mention that. I bought mine from a local Pelicanite for $40. I'll pass it on to the next Pelican engine dropper.:D
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I use two jacks, the 30lbs aluminum one under the tranny, and the large steel one (bought from Costco few years ago) under the engine sump cover. The aluminum one did not have enough lift to reach the engine while the car is jacked way up.
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This jack rocks!!!! Cost is very reasonable for a jack that get as high as this one. I bought one for my drop last fall and would buy it again in a second. Free shipping also!!!! Check it out...
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=42820 |
The motorcycle jack will keep it balanced. I have dropped and installed my engine by myself with it. I picked one up from checker for $59. It was well worth it.
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Yes... Use a motorcycle jack for the engine with a beefed up funiture dolly. Use the high lift jack to lift the car so you can slide your engine out. You can do it by yourself with these jacks at the ready...
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I've dropped and replaced a couple of engines the last year and have come to the conclusion: You don't need either jack to lift excessively high if you place the jacks in the right spot. To jack the back end of the car up, place the jack on a 2x4 centered on the car directly in front of the transmission bolts. This will lift the car adequately to slide the engine in from the back. Once the engine is in place, jack enough to get if close and then lower the car and start bolting. 2 people and do this job, 3 is better. It is not that hard to center the engine on a board and guide it into place with light support on a jack. If you want to buy $500 jacks or specialized jack to do this possibly once in your cars lifetime, do so by all means. The economy can use the business.
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Having now used the Sears ATV jack (I lend mine out freely Ted) and Paul Wilding's jack adaptor (if you have a pre 3.2 engine) which Pelican sells, I can say that Paul's tool beats the ATV jack hands down.
The engine is balanced perfectly and is level so you don't have to worry about messing up the shift shaft while lowering the car down on to the engine/tranny. If there was one for the 3.2/3.6 blocks, I would buy it and sell the ATV to Ted for 50 bucks. :) |
The I've been very happy with the AC hydraulics model 20. I looked at the high lift model, but figured the vast majority of the jack use wouldnt require it (other than an engin drop) and that I could use some wood boards when required for the extra lift.
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I'm unclear on how some of you slide the engine out from under the car with it on a jack.
I take off the wheels and lower the car until the engine is on a wooden dolly that I made, then I loosen the bolts and raise the car enough to slide the engine out. Even with the very short dolly, I have to lift the car pretty high to slide out the engine. |
Thanks for all the input and will try to post some pics. It seems like the motorcycle jack is a nice way to go for balance and overall ease. But with advice give here tells me I don't need a "high lift" jack to get this sucker out. I'm sure there's more questions on the way so htanks again for the help.
Jay |
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