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wtmeyer 06-04-2004 09:56 AM

Running directional street tires the wrong way
 
Are there any advantages or disadvantages to running street tires with directional tread patters in the opposite direction?

I just realized after my last DE event that my rear tires were mounted in the wrong direction by the shop that did an alignment and balance before the event. I guess I learned to check everything from now onif you do not tdo the work yourself.

MysticLlama 06-04-2004 09:58 AM

I can see it maybe being a little bit of a problem on dry ground, but if it was making good contact, then not too much.

In the rain on the other hand, I'd imagine it would make a HUGE difference, because you'd be funneling the water towards the center of the tire vs. towards the edges.

I of course could be completely wrong. :D

rattlsnak 06-04-2004 09:59 AM

I think they are 'directional' for a reason. What it will or wont cause, as far as tire wear, grip, etc. I couldnt tell you!

RickM 06-04-2004 10:03 AM

My guess would be that they could be:
Louder
Have less traction
Accelerated wear

B D 06-04-2004 10:03 AM

Quote:

Are there any advantages or disadvantages to running street tires with directional tread patters in the opposite direction?
Great wet weather traction for high speed runs in reverse!:D
Just have the shop turn them around, they should have known better.

atlporsche 06-04-2004 11:49 AM

they'd be fine in the dry...in the wet they'll pull water to the CENTER of the tire....that's BAD.

sjd

juanbenae 06-04-2004 11:54 AM

switch the left and right ones around, take the left one and put it on the right side and visa versa.. presto, directional tire pointing the right way again!

i had to reread to make sure someone else did not figure this out. im a dam genious i tell you!

wtmeyer 06-04-2004 12:02 PM

k911SC you are a genius! But a question about your procedure. Do I have to remove the left or right one first to get them to line up correctly? :)

CHILI 06-04-2004 12:12 PM

Yep, in the dry it's no big deal. You will notice that many racers (including the car I work on) run slicks on the fronts the wrong way. This was recomended to us by Yokahama themselves. The arrows point to the driver (ie rears are the right direction, while the fronts look to be going the wrong way). The theory is they are being "pushed" therefore are simulating the rears which are pushing.

doozer 06-04-2004 01:59 PM

My tire guy says the internal belts are directional and running the wrong way will cause the belting to fail = BLOWOUT

RoninLB 06-04-2004 02:11 PM

I think Tire Rack has info that their only a wet weather thing. I had to drive from the west coast to the east coast, including much rain, when the tires were worn down to the wear bars. Some of the tires were routinely reversed for the big big ride. I didn't find the edge of the envelope, but no problem on the HY.

juanbenae 06-04-2004 03:43 PM

either way will work, i reckon'.

singpilot 06-04-2004 04:42 PM

I, personally, would laugh out loud as I walked by in the parking lot.

RoninLB 06-04-2004 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by singpilot
I, personally, would laugh out loud as I walked by in the parking lot.
I think you would be bewildered if you ever saw my car when the directionals were scrabbled in reverse.. It won't be funny.don't ask why.
also I use 4 x 6in wheels.

Emission 06-04-2004 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by doozer
My tire guy says the internal belts are directional and running the wrong way will cause the belting to fail = BLOWOUT
The Sumitomo and Yokohama guys (factory dudes) say it is only a factor in wet weather.

In the dry, they will be louder. No big deal.

Internally, they are identical.

P.S. - I run mine "backwards" in the summer on my G35 for extended tire life (I can rotate them).

RoninLB 06-04-2004 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Emission
The Sumitomo and Yokohama guys (factory dudes) say it is only a factor in wet weather.


ditto for my S-03 info

Zeke 06-04-2004 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by k911sc
switch the left and right ones around, take the left one and put it on the right side and visa versa.. presto, directional tire pointing the right way again!

i had to reread to make sure someone else did not figure this out. im a dam genious i tell you!



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nostatic 06-04-2004 07:06 PM

I used to run certain directional mountain bike tires "backwards" becuase I thought the manufacturer got it wrong with their design. But then again, hydroplaning isn't an issue on a mtb, whereas grip in loose stuff is.

maxnine11 06-04-2004 07:13 PM

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im a dam genious i tell you!
did you type that just to test those of us who are a damn genius ??


max ;)

flatlander 06-04-2004 07:30 PM

Grass roots Motorsports Magazine, actually did this on puropose for an article a few years back.

The car actually did faster lap times with the tires running "backwards"

seriously just turn them back around they will be fine.

Kyle


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