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Does this Certificate look legit to you?
Any Certificate of Authenticity experts? Does this one look real?
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Look at the post by fhernand recently. This looks similar to the image john_cramer posted of his cert. So I would say it looks to be authentic unless someone copied it and manipulated the vin.
As you know, the technology in printing can make any document look authentic. Is there a particular reason you need this to be authentic? Will it add value to your car or just provide you with good info?
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I didn't know they were folded in the middle, kind of cheapons it up.
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[QUOTE=pozee;3660579]Look at the post by fhernand recently. This looks similar to the image john_cramer posted of his cert. So I would say it looks to be authentic unless someone copied it and manipulated the vin.
As you know, the technology in printing can make any document look authentic. Is there a particular reason you need this to be authentic? Will it add value to your car or just provide you with good info?[/QUOTE] I'm a bit curious too. Given what I've read about COA accuracy recently, I personally would not consider them as an asset or liability to a car's history. As a buyer, I would look at it as I look at dealer hype--nice if it's true, but don't count on it.
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That doesn't look anything like the one I got for my 65'. Not even close. The paper mine's printed on looks twice that heavy, and the layout is different.
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An actual Porsche Certificate looks like this one.
These are excellent to show that the correct engine and tranny are in place with the correct numbers. Great for concours and to show a potential buyer that your car is the real thing. 911_pilot ![]() |
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Here's a shot of mine received earlier this year...
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Do you guys with one of these think it enhances the value of your car?
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No- not at all. I got the certificate to find out the information for the engine and gearbox serial numbers as well as the original options on the car. Looks like that's what I received- right?
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Here's mine......
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It looks like the COA of trader220 may not be legit--no color Porsche crest and different format.
I will modify my original response a bit. As a buyer, a real COA does have some value as 911_pilot states, in the matching of engine and tranny to a particular car. Even this, though, seems to be a bit erratic. In the three legit examples, the categories Engine Number/Type and Transmission Number/Type, only one of the documents supplies the type number for both. Not a big deal, but for the price charged for such basic information, I would think there would be some consistency in the reporting. As a buyer engine and tranny info is helpful and could effect price if matching numbers are important. As a seller, maybe the "Free French" way is the route to take to get the same basic information. edit: I will be interested to find out if the COA is real, or at least who is producing the fakes. I have seen the same format in a few ads for cars over the last several months, all as enticements to buyers.
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Doesn't look like mine either.
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Apparently there are other forms of the COA. Check this out--can anyone confirm it this is real? It doesn't look anything like the ones in this thread, but does look legit in that someone went to a lot of trouble to make up Porsche paper for it.
I'm thinking there may be more than one format to a real COA, but that still doesn't explain the "copier" look to the one originally submitted in this thread. Still....
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My COA saved my butt at DMV. The NJ title had the wrong year and used the engine # as the VIN. Money well spent just on THAT.....
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