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H20911 07-08-2004 12:22 PM

the Ebay car has a tornado trans and axles. that is why it is in the bach seat. the average conversion puts it in the same location as the p engine. also the radiator scoop/ vent can fog the front window the way that it exits.....bad Idea. here is a nice conversion with fuel injection (zz4 crate motor)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1089314405.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1089314423.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1089314465.jpg

looking back at the money that I spent (I really wanted a cab)
a 3.6 would have been better.

Schuey 07-08-2004 12:44 PM

Re: Non-Porsche Engine Swapping
 
Quote:

Originally posted by 84porsche
Is it wrong to put another brand engine in a Porsche?

I have seen many doing this as if it is common. I think it is very wrong. It is taking the heart and soul out of the car and putting in something cheaper. Some of these engines may flat out beat a stock 911 but in my opinion it cheapens the car and takes away value even for a track car.

On the other hand I would like to take an old Porsche engine and modify for an old VW bug. I think the combination would be one powerful yet still practical car and it would keep the engine in the same family.

Opinions.


I don't care as long as the fit/finish are excellent...I'd probably never do an american V8, although I would consider the Subaru WRX which would give me 280hp/280lbs stock and this could be boosted, etc. up to 600hp...

from what I've seen with the Subaru setup, there is no chopping of the 911 chasis, etc. This is a huge consideration...

if we want to get critical the 914, 924, and Pepperwagon V6 aren't "Porsche" engines either :p

what kills me is that some people would say "great job" if someone put a 3.0 SC engine into a VW, etc. but turn their nose up at it if in reverse (no offense intended to those of you who may have already stated this) :D

I'm a purist at heart...I like my 911SC with it's original engine, when I do buy a 65/66 Mustang Fastback someday, it will need it's original/period-correct engine too...otherwise, IMO, it's not worth the money...

my motto is, "to each his own"...it's their driver...I, for one, do not care for the roll-cage, the funny hood lights, the weekend racer guys 911...but hey, to each his own...I love the 911 either way...

so when I "butcher" my 911SC CIS with PMO's or EFI, replace my bumpers, etc. I'll keep them for the purist just in case I sell...one guy could care less, another may...

When I see a chopped up 911 with a V8 done horribly wrong (mostly on eBay), or I see someone total their 911 at DE/AX it hurts either way...

I better stop rambling :o

targa911S 07-08-2004 01:44 PM

It's just wrong! Look at the prices of early Jags converted to Chevy power. Now a Jag is a car that could USE the conversion and it is STILL wrong. They sell for less than the cars with the old outdated, oil leaking, always failing, Lucas wired cars.

Porsche_monkey 07-08-2004 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by targa911S
They sell for less than the cars with the old outdated, oil leaking, always failing, Lucas wired cars.
Right up to the Lucas part I thought you were talking about my Porsche.

MikeSid 07-08-2004 03:31 PM

Can't explain it. Just a feeling.
P-engine in non P-car = cool.
Non-P-engine in P-car = mutant.
Nuthin' rational about it, just personal preference.

Someday....(dreaming a bit here)....I'll have a VW type 181 "Thing" with a weber'd Porsche 3.2.....and I'll smoke a Cayenne....yeah....a turbo S Cayenne!! That's the ticket!!

K. Roman 07-09-2004 11:16 PM

bump

Mattias Hellore 07-10-2004 12:53 AM

I have not only one but TWO Porsches here with no Porsche engines in it, one Chevrolet 327, one with SAAB 2.3 turbo.

Itīs just a hobby, merely for fun.

The Porschev was a nearly rotten 912, the other 911 was nearly perfect 911 but itīs a SC.

Victor 07-10-2004 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by targa911S
It's just wrong! Look at the prices of early Jags converted to Chevy power. Now a Jag is a car that could USE the conversion and it is STILL wrong. They sell for less than the cars with the old outdated, oil leaking, always failing, Lucas wired cars.
You are bringing back memories. I once had a lowered Series 1 XJS with a sweet 327. It was gear driven, nice and loud and sounded even better than the interceptor in the first Mad Max film.

If you know what I mean.

Without the engine setup, I would not have bothered with such a pommy heap of bolts. Nice diff though.

Shuie 07-10-2004 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by targa911S
Now a Jag is a car that could USE the conversion and it is STILL wrong. They sell for less than the cars with the old outdated, oil leaking, always failing, Lucas wired cars.
I had a friend who let me drive his LT1 converted XKS once. Other than the brakes, it was probably one of the finest cars I've ever driven. Out of curiosity, what do they sell for?

Tom Perso 07-10-2004 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by klaucke
However, owning a bug I always wanted to put a 914 engine in it.
I put a 78.4 x 96 Type 4 (ie, 914) motor in my Bug. Worked great!

The 63 Bug

Here are some vids...

Drive-By shot running a Super Turbo

Shifting into 4th with a Flowmaster installed

Good Launch

Makin Noise

That motor is now in my 74 914 (Must have had some Porsche content... :) )

Later!
Tom

targa911S 07-10-2004 07:11 AM

Converted coupes here go for $3 to $5 grand. yeah that diff is great street rod stuff. Saw one that was totally chrome once..very impressive!

Cerbin 07-10-2004 11:26 AM

I would NEVER put anything but a Porsche 911 engine in a 911. For some reason putting a chevy V8 in a P-car makes me sick, in my book it basically sucks. It's lost it's heart.

Just sayin.


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