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				Help! creaping ignition advance, weak springs?
			 
			
			Now that the project is up and running I am trying to get it all tuned up.  I am really having a hard time setting timing.   
		
	
		
	
			
				78 SC 3.0 with webers. I am trying to set at 30deg max advance at 6K. I have no tach and thats another post. So back calculating from the max advacne of the dist I get about 10-12 deg BTDC at idle. Here is my problem. If I set the timing anywhere bast 0 deg TDC the advance slowly creeps up to max advance. of course, my idle speed goes right along with it. I have disassembled the dist. two times and I KNOW the weights are not sticking. I was wondering if stronger springs are needed. Do these dist springs wear out and lose their K? Is there anything else to check if its sticking? I can't find anything. 
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			I don't understand your problem.  At idle the advance changes or when you rev it?  I do think springs can weaken with time and heat. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
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			At idle the timing changes due to the advance.  The dist is tight and I get about 20deg advace, equal to the total advance of the dist.   
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			this means I can not set timing because it is dynamic when it should be static 
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			Does the centif. adv. feel weak?  Turn the rotor by hand and see if it is very weak.  You can get springs a your local speed shop and try stiffer ones
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			the rotor turns and snaps back without any problem.  compared to my targa I don't feel much difference in tension.   
		
	
		
	
			
			
				
					I see if I can locate stiffer springs 
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