Lug nur removal ? - Don't laugh pls

[ecm911]

I have a lug nut that appears to be a security type , ie. you need a key to remove it. It is a 78 SC. of course, I don't have a key and can't locate one.

What is the best approach to removing it

dremel cut-off & replace the lug?
I tried vice grips, but could not get a good grip.
I am afraid to use heat, the soft nuts may melt?


TIA,

Earl

[Westy]

Earl...a month or so ago there was a thread about just such a problem. Search under 'lug nuts' and I'll bet you'll get your answer

[ken_xman]

easy on your soft nuts.
The lock system on mine needed to be broken off using a small chisel to break out the lock cylinder. then the sleeve should slide off

[Rufblackbird]

I would weld...or tack weld a nut onto the lugnut, then use the appropriate sized socket with a breaker bar to take it off.

[jmohn]

If yours is like mine, it's not a keyed lock, just an oddly shaped nut that requires an "adapter" between it and a conventional 19 mm socket. If that's the case, try a better, larger pair of vise-grips, or channel locks. If they still fail, I'd try a small pipe wrench. You'll end up ruining the nut, but who cares?

BTW, the "adapters" are probably still available from Porsche, if you went to a dealer, they could get you the right one.

Jerry '78 SC

[ecm911]

Jerry,

You are correct. I need an adapter ( not a key, mistake in describing as such). Right also, I don't care about the nut, just want it off. I will try a larger vise grips.

Thanks

Earl

PS I can imagine what Porsche dealer would want for that?

[Wil Ferch]

how do you "tack weld" to an aluminum nut?

Not easy for the home amateur....

--Wil

[sammyg2]

I've had luck in the past with this method:
Find a 16 pt. socket that almost fits over the locking nut but not quite.
Hammer it over the nut so that it bites down on the OD, then use a ratchet or breaker bar to unscrew it.

It will trash the locking device but if you don't have a key, who cares?
It may also damage the socket a little, so don't use your best snap-on set.
All in all it should take a couple minutes.

[SteveStromberg]

Ditto What Sammy Says

[mb911]

Kind of a different subject but You tack weld on aluminum with a Tig torch!

Ben

[Jdub]

Is the car stolen?

Seriously, check the glove compartment and empty out the tool kit to find the key. It is probably in the car somewhere.

John

[rick-l]

Originally posted by mb911
Kind of a different subject but You tack weld on aluminum with a Tig torch!

Ben

aluminum to steel?

[sammyg2]

If you go anywhere near the wheel with an arc welder, please pay very close attention to where the grounding clamp is. That goes for all welding around machinery.
Arcing through a bearing is way down near the bottom on the good/bad scale.

[john walker's workshop]

just hop on a tool truck, or go to sears, and get the proper size stripped nut remover tool. looks like a socket with internal helical teeth. tap it on, turn it off. all the upscale wheel stealers have a few handy.

[tobluforu]

I'm w\JW. Those nifty tools you see on infomercials are great for this type of problem. Sears can hook you up. Every mechanic should have one.

[Rufblackbird]

Oh yeah...forgot about that. Heck, I even have the kit and I still forgot. Here's the link from the Craftsman website.

[ecm911]

YOU GUYS ARE GREAT.
esp,. JW-

JUST GOT BACK FROM SEARS, LUG NUT IS OFF!!!!!

JOHN WALKER, YOU HAVE HELP ME MORE TIMES THAN I CAN COUNT. JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO, I WAS SINGING YOUR PRAISES WHEN I FOLLOWED YOUR ADVICE ON REMOVING MY HEAT EXCHANGERS. HEAT IS OUR FRIEND- ALL NUTS OFF & NO BROKEN STUDS!!! YOU ARE A TREMDOUS RESOURCE. I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME AND SHARING YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH PEOPLE LIKE ME - WRENCH IMPAIRED.

AND NO THE CAR IS NOT STOLEN, IT IS MY FIRST PROJECT. SO IT IS MISSING A FEW THINGS, LIKE - ENGINE, FUEL LINES AND NOW A LUG NUT.


THANKS AGAIN

UNTIL THE NEXT POST - BE SAFE
EARL

[mb911]

ALuminum to steel if you want to solder Oh yeah I teach metal science and welding So I had to be a smart a@#.

Ben