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obrut 08-15-2004 03:55 AM

PURISTS BEWARE - Early 911 speedster project, part 1
 
Well I've been talking about this one for a while, see:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=168191&perpage=20&highl ight=early%20speedster&pagenumber=1

Its now on - here's the donor (victim?) car

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1092570782.jpg

Its a 1971 Viper green 911T with a 2.4 and a 915 in place of the original 2.2/901. Whilst its a little bit rough around the edges, it drives like a dream. Great torquey little engine, very smooth shifting gearbox (with short shift), excellent brakes, good clutch - mechanically its spot on.

But is it too good to chop? We'll see if I can do it when the conversion parts are found and the time comes to grab the hacksaw...

ps: If any of the Aussies on the board want a great little early targa then grab your cheque books fast while I'm still a little queasy.

pps: Anyone got any leads on a 89 speedster clamshell?

Adam 08-15-2004 04:23 AM

Wow, that's nice! Where did you end up finding that one?

Almost too nice to chop up...

KALLGREN 08-15-2004 04:27 AM

You have a couple hot rods already. Keep this to take your best gal out on the town for a nice dinner.

I am not a big fan of the targa, however the brushed finish roll hoop works well with the brightwork and tasty green paintwork.

Maybe backdate those seats...add some driving lights and finish the wheels ala rsr...

BK

layzee 08-15-2004 04:43 AM

Too nice to chop for me. I could understand if you were in CA but aren't early cars big money in down under?

obrut 08-15-2004 02:52 PM

Adam - Was chatting to a mechanic I know a few weeks ago and asked him if he knew of any 'unwanted' early targas. He gave me the number of a guy 10 mins from my place who has had this one for a while but doesn't really use it anymore. Had a look/drive, made an offer and bingo. The body is a little unloved but going thru the receipts it looks like he was very generous in keeping the mechanicals in order - hence why i drives so bloody well.

BK - The 930 is my official street car, and my girlfriend (motorbike rider) loves it (even likes the boost!)

Phil - I've been thinking about this little project for quite a while but now its do-able I may get cold feet. I've never liked targas but this little green beast is growing on me - and summer's on the way...

Tinton 08-15-2004 03:46 PM

The longer you keep it, the harder it will be to commence the cut.

Will viper green remain the colour of the speedster? If so, I say leave it as a targa.

atlporsche 08-15-2004 03:59 PM

don't you cut that car...

sjd

obrut 08-15-2004 05:06 PM

Anthony - the green would remain at first, its really a cool colour in the flesh. it would also be helpful in messing with people's heads (ie. oh yeah, its an early factory prototpye...) Long term - silver would be the go.

SJD - I'm going to test the Aussie for sale markets first but if nobody wants it - bbbzzzzzzz

Zeke 08-15-2004 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tinton
Will viper green remain the colour of the speedster? If so, I say leave it as a targa.
That sounds funny. I guess you can't stand the sight of a Viper Green Speedster. :D

Frankly, me either. Silver sounds good.

Victor 08-15-2004 06:33 PM

Ryan,

Paint the hood and doors white, Get a blue light for the decklid, stick a siren on the targa bar and slap on some "POLIZEI" decals.

Instant cred.

obrut 08-15-2004 07:46 PM

Ahh Victor - sage advice as always. Now hand me that angle grinder...

Yellowbird RS 08-15-2004 07:56 PM

to nice to cut it get a roller

Langers 08-15-2004 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yellowbird RS
to nice to cut it get a roller
Easier said than done.

Bobboloo 08-15-2004 10:35 PM

It's too damn cute.

I went down this road before. I had a 72' Targa roller as a candidate. I ended up giving it away when I found my 71' S Targa and needed the room. The Targas have a way of growing on you.

I would still love to do the early speedster thing but I just don't have the time.

I came to the conclusion that it would be much easier and probably cheaper to buy an 89' speedster and back date it. I know its not the same but diffenently faster and easier.

Matt Holcomb 08-15-2004 10:40 PM

Ryan,

It'd be a much better summer car without the rear glass.

obrut 08-15-2004 11:10 PM

MH - "It'd be a much better summer car without the rear glass."

or the front glass
or the targa bar
or the windscreen frame...

kstar 08-15-2004 11:15 PM

Ryan:

Go for it! It'd be a great, albeit, potentially costly project. I'd like to start such a project from such a nice car; it's a project that I have on my list.

I'd like a Cabrio from such a car, but the Speedster concept is even more interesting.

But, like Bobby said, starting from an '89 Speedster would be even better. :) I am not sure if the folks here would give you more sheeit for cutting up your green T or an '89 Speedster. :)

A backdated '89 Speedster with a TT motor, tail-less RUF IC set-up would be about as cool as it could get in Porscheopia, IMHO.

Follow your heart.

BR,

Kurt

MAS 08-16-2004 01:41 AM

Yes... too good to chop... in my (completely unbiased ;) ) opinion.

-MAS

Big_Mac 08-16-2004 04:15 AM

I've seen an early 911 speedster at both of the Classic Le Mans.
At this years event there was even a 993 Speedster.

obrut 08-16-2004 04:40 AM

Thanks for your thoughts guys.

The logic with starting with a runner is I didn't want to spend half of the project fixing a car (at who knows what cost) but rather just jump in a do the conversion. Plus its a non matching numbers T.

As to backdating an '89 - there is only one for sale down here and they are asking big $$$'s.

Also, the plan was always to try and create a really minimalist car in the spirit of the 356 speedsters and 550 spyders - ie. a tonneau instead of a top, little plastic screen etc

We'll just have to wait and see if I can do it...


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