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mb911 08-24-2004 06:19 PM

Wil Ferch Where is the calculator?
 
Wil or maybe someone else can help,

Where do I find the ride hieght and corner balance calculator. I am going to change spring plates and bushings this weekend and need to figure this stuff out. Thanks so much

Ben

Rot 911 08-24-2004 06:29 PM

Go here and scroll down to the Porsche 911 Section: http://vintagebus.com/

1974carrera 08-24-2004 07:00 PM

Here's a link to take you to it:

http://tech.rennlist.com/911/pdf/settings.pdf

Zeke 08-24-2004 07:02 PM

I know more about what's going on here than most because I supplied the parts. Ben, THIS THREAD IS USELESS W/O PICS! ;)

rattlsnak 08-24-2004 07:06 PM

I just used it today when I installed my rear bars. I wont know for awhile if I did it right because the engine is still out

Wil Ferch 08-25-2004 05:15 AM

Sorry for responding late to this....but I see others have chimed-in for me. Thanks, all.

The calculator seems to work well, but it requires accurate "input" data to get good "output"...not really surprising. Total weight, fr/rr weight distribution is key.....

---Wil

widebody911 08-25-2004 05:25 AM

Here is the spring plate angle calculator

http://vintagebus.com/cgi-bin/spring.cgi

And the corner balance calculator

http://vintagebus.com/cgi-bin/balance.cgi

rattlsnak 08-25-2004 05:45 AM

Wil, i used it and came up with a spring plate angle of @18 which seems to be not enough. I know the 31 bars are very stiff, but without the engine in the car, its almost where it needs to be now! (the initial angle was @35)
I used the following specs, weight:2200, droop height:3.2, bars:31, and got 17-18 degrees. Well at least I have adjustable spring plates so it will easier to correct if Im off!

Wil Ferch 08-25-2004 06:02 AM

I'm not going to to do individual situation math checks....:)

but I will say that if the all the input data is correct ( total car weight....fr/rr distribution which is typically 40/60 for non Turbo....plug in the TB sizes...and assume you're targeting Euro ride height ...about 3.84" spring plate angle droop when car is on-ground).....then...this should all work out to within 1/4" or better of your targeted ride height.

Sure beats guessing and doing this whole mess over 3-5 times !

---Wil

mb911 08-25-2004 08:50 AM

Thanks found it! I will go ahead and tear into it. Anybody now where I can set default for rear alignment when I am done?? Of course I will have it done properly just wanted to know if I could do it myself

Ben

widebody911 08-25-2004 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mb911
Thanks found it! I will go ahead and tear into it. Anybody now where I can set default for rear alignment when I am done?? Of course I will have it done properly just wanted to know if I could do it myself

I just scribed a line where the spring plate met the trailing arm before I took things apart, and matched that up when I put it back together. Close enough for govermnet work, and I was actually only 1/2 degree off on toe and 1 degree shy on camber. I think the eccentrics are an 11mm allen.

Another thing to consider: I installed Elephant Racing monoballs and polybronze bushings last weekend, and I noticed the spring plate bolts were kind of haggard, so I replaced all of the hardware with the exception of the eccentrics. The spring plate bolts and eccentrics are 12x1.5mm I bought slightly longer ones and used nylocks instead of plain nuts. I also chased the threads on the eccentrics.

mb911 08-25-2004 10:54 AM

Good idea thats what I will do.

Ben


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