930 Turbo ebay scam

[Aussie]

Ebay Advertisment.

He goes by the ebay name of donkey1304 and rainbow1304.

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This car was just sold from the Healey Factory in Melbourne last week for $68,500 AU, I contacted them and the car is definitely still in Melbourne

Its now on sale in London for $9000 AU including shipping.

Posing as a buyer heres the response I got!

Hello,

The car is still available for sale and ready to be shipped.

I'm very glad that you like my car and I can only say that you have good taste about cars!This car was never crushed, droped or raced,no scathches,no dents and also it has a clear title. I took care of it like it was my own baby and now is in the same condition as it was when I bought it - even better!


The price is $ 9500AU including shipping to your home address.
Shipping will be done via Lufthansa Air Cargo from London,United Kingdom and it will take no more then 4 days for the car to arrive at the delivery location.I am in the Military and Lufthansa will manage me a low price for shipping and if you will pay the money transfer taxes,I will pay for the shipping fees.I will arrange for you not to pay any dutyes when the car will pass through customs.In this way the car can be delivered to your home address.


Also,you have nothing to worry about this deal because will be done it in a secure way.The most important thing in all my activities, is that I am affiliated at eBay Square Trade and I have a Purchase Protection Account for USD $20,000 and I assume you know what this means.If you did not hear about Square Trade here are their terms:

1) If you will not receive the car not as advertised,Square Trade will refund you the whole amount which you paid me(100 %).In case that you will not receive the car,they will refund you the money back from my account.

2) You can send the money to my name and address but you will not provide me the details of the payment.You will provide the details to Square Trade.They will verify the payment and if is ok,and the money are availble under my name they will notify me to procede with the shipping.After you receive and see that the car is the one you want,you just notify Square Trade to forward me the payment details in order for me to pick up my money.

Let me know if this is ok with you,so that we can go forward with this deal!About the payment Square Trade will manage in my place the financial details.
Regards!

p.s. If you have the money ready and you want to buy my baby I need your full name and shipping address in order to contact Square Trade to start the deal.

[Yellowbird RS]

6,928.17 USD
where's the trick?

[peridotian]

Bid on it and find out!

[Adam]

I saw that last night, Simon but I couldn't seem to find a link anywhere to report it to eBay.

Saw that car in the flesh a few weeks ago, too (@ the Healey Factory) and it's very clean.

[copper]

Part of the scam is that this guy is not a Square Trade member.
The Square Trade seal he uses is a copied graphic placed in a scrolling java text. Not linkable to Square Trade.

Square Trade members have their seal placed on their auctions automatically by eBay. These seals are linked, and can be clicked on to take you to their Square Trade summary. I also checked the Square Trade site, and this user is not a member.

Keying in the UserID on their spoof tester gives this...
Is your eBay seller SquareTrade Verified?


SquareTrade shows NO record for this eBay ID. SquareTrade does NOT protect buyers from sellers who are not SquareTrade Verified.

For further investigation, please forward your email to spoof@squaretrade.com.

For immediate assistance, you may take eBay's online tutorial for how to spot a spoof (fake) email. http://pages.ebay.com/education/spooftutorial/


Also, the user has only been around for about 4 months and has changed his user ID 4 times... Curious.

I would report this to eBay/Square Trade as a possible fraud, or at the least a misrepresentation of the Square Trade program.

Check with the guy and see if he will accept the use of an escrow service? These services act as intermediaries. They wait until they have the buyer's cheque, and the sellers goods, and then send them on their respective way. If one doesn't come through, the money, or product is sent back.

If he won't use escrow, he's a fraud.

I think I might play with him a bit...

Jim

[copper]

Started messing with his head.

Also notified Square Trade.

We'll see what happens.

Looks like the guy ended it early though. Hope he didn't find a sucker...

Reading his response, and his poor grasp on the english language, it reminds me a lot of the "Help me get my millions out of Nigeria" scams.

We'll see how this plays out.
We don't need goofs like this around.

Jim

[Aussie]

If he won't use escrow, he's a fraud.

ohh his definitely a fraud, the car is still at the Healey Factory I think, which is in Australia.

[trader220]

There are dozens of these same scams on the Harley Davidson's for sale too. Infact at anytime the "new listed" front page of Harley Davidson's for sale you'll find that around 70 to 80% of the listings are the same scam. The silly low price, the 24 hours auction, the approved buyers only, etc etc. If you send email saying you want to buy the bike, you'll get the story about the seller being overseas and he'll either ship you the bike or its in an Ebay Warehouse. Ummm Ebay has no Warehouses. They all want you to use Western Union also which Ebay always says not to. You can send them email and play witht them but DONT fill out the buy it now because then they hijack your Ebay account and get into your paypal and cc info. I tell Ebay everyday about this and they dont really seem to care. Infact they've gotten to the point where they dont even bother totake the auctions down because there are so many of them. These people dont stop, they'll send emails for days and days all of which look legit from Ebay or Square-Trade telling you that you have to pay for the item you won.

I think its going to be the downfall of Ebaymotors. When you think about it, if you're thinking you're going to get a 15k bike for 6k then you're the sucker these people pray on.

[indigowhale]

In response to a Carrera sale ad that I placed at a site that is frequented by the UK Porschephiles, I sent the following reply to the inquiry via email:

--------------------------------

In which country of Africa are you, Nigeria or Kenya?

--- tom jones ([tom_****@yahoo.co.uk) wrote:

> HELLO SELLER,
> I AM HEREBY INTERESTED IN YOUR PURCHASES WHICH MY
> CLIENT REALLY LOVE
> AND ALSO I WILL LIKE
> YOU TELL TELL ME SOMETHING ABOUT IT,
> AND ALSO WILL LIKE TO INFORM YOU THAT THE PAYMENT
> METHOD THAT MY
> CLIENT
> READY TO USE TO PAY YOU IS
> CARSHIER CHECK..................
> INTERNATIONAL MONEY ORDER CHECK...............
> PARSONAL CHECK.......................
> AND ALSO YOUR FULL INFORMATION IS NEEDED FOR YOU GET
> THE PAYMENT
> ASAP...........
> NAME.....................
> ADDRESS...................
> POSTAL CODE....................
> STATE.....................
> COUNTRY......................
> TEL NUMBER......................
> LAST OFFER...........................
> GET BACK TO ME FAST
> I LOOK FORWARD TO READ FROM YOU SOONET
> Cheers
> tom
>

[copper]

Sent this guy some email. Got pretty much the same form letter as is outlined above, however, I asked specific questions and he added some info, saying his wife had a baby a week ago and he had to buy a station wagon and has no time to drive this car, plus he can't register it in the UK.

Same story. He wanted $9500 AU plus $400 for those money transfer taxes, whatever the hell those are, and he would ship it to me free. Said to send the money and to let square trade know.

Asked him how do I send the money. He sent back to contact Square Trade. I replied that they had no record of him and asked why this was.

No response yet.

Now if this is a fraud, and he's trying to pretend to be a Square Trade member, why is he telling me to contact Square Trade to arrange payment? Not sure...

Interesting. Car is still for sale.
Anybody in the UK here? Might want to try to arrange a looksee.

Jim

[safecracker]

[
I have not used e-bay alot so I have never used the buy it now feature, but tell me how can someone "hijack" your account. Thanks, just wondering, Phil
QUOTE]Originally posted by trader220
There are dozens of these same scams on the Harley Davidson's for sale too. Infact at anytime the "new listed" front page of Harley Davidson's for sale you'll find that around 70 to 80% of the listings are the same scam. The silly low price, the 24 hours auction, the approved buyers only, etc etc. If you send email saying you want to buy the bike, you'll get the story about the seller being overseas and he'll either ship you the bike or its in an Ebay Warehouse. Ummm Ebay has no Warehouses. They all want you to use Western Union also which Ebay always says not to. You can send them email and play witht them but DONT fill out the buy it now because then they hijack your Ebay account and get into your paypal and cc info. I tell Ebay everyday about this and they dont really seem to care. Infact they've gotten to the point where they dont even bother totake the auctions down because there are so many of them. These people dont stop, they'll send emails for days and days all of which look legit from Ebay or Square-Trade telling you that you have to pay for the item you won.

I think its going to be the downfall of Ebaymotors. When you think about it, if you're thinking you're going to get a 15k bike for 6k then you're the sucker these people pray on. [/QUOTE]

[MrKJBlue]

Originally posted by copper

Interesting. Car is still for sale.
Anybody in the UK here? Might want to try to arrange a looksee.

Jim

This looks very fishy to me, but if you can arrange it I'm willing to go and see if the car and seller are actually here.

edit: I see that the "contact seller" button is gone, allways a bad sign.

[TerryH]

Most of us that use eBay regularly have received "spoof" emails asking us for our information because of one of several bogus reasons.... our account was violated, computer glitch at eBay that erased our info, or they just need ID confirmation, etc etc.. Maybe one in a thousand will fall for these gimmicks, but that gives them hundreds of hacked accounts in short order.

Simply never answer ANY unsolicited email that asks you for ANY personal information. Never go to a website directed by email and log on. The mirrored sites these hackers create are virtually identical to the real thing. You won't know you're duped until it's too late. The only purpose of these websites is to steal your personal ID, password and bank/credit card info.

Citibank, eBay, Paypal accounts are stolen/hijacked by the thousands. Don't be naive and you likely won't be a victim.




[QUOTE]Originally posted by safecracker
[B][
I have not used e-bay alot so I have never used the buy it now feature, but tell me how can someone "hijack" your account. Thanks, just wondering, Phil

[tiorio]

Originally posted by copper
Asked him how do I send the money. He sent back to contact Square Trade. I replied that they had no record of him and asked why this was.

No response yet.

Now if this is a fraud, and he's trying to pretend to be a Square Trade member, why is he telling me to contact Square Trade to arrange payment? Not sure...

Just cause he's trying to scam people doesn't make him smart!

eBay is the worlds larget flea market...and you know what kind of stuff you find at the flea market...

[trader220]

Here is a classic example of a bogus email i got from and Ebay SPoof scammer...

Dear "howleeni2003",

You have received this email because we have strong reason to believe that your eBay account had been recently compromised. In order to prevent any fraudulent activity from occurring we are required to open an investigation into this matter. To speed up this process, you are required to complete your profile.

In order to submit your informations please reply directly to this email.

Please Note: If your account informations are not updated within the next 24 hours, then we will assume this account is fraudulent and will be suspended. We apologize for this inconvenience, but the purpose of this verification is to ensure that your eBay account has not been fraudulently used and to combat fraud.




eBay User ID:

Password:

Account Type(1-seller; 2-buyer):

Email:

First Name:

Last Name:

Address:

City:

State:

Zip Code:

Country:

Primary Phone# :

Gender:

We appreciate your support and understanding, as we work together to keep eBay a safe place to trade.

Thank you for your attention on this serious matter. We apologize for any delay in resolving this situation.


Regards,


Morris Franklin
eBay SafeHarbor
Investigations Team

[trader220]

HERE IS ANOTHER... BOTH CAME TODAY

Congratulations to be pre-approved for eBay item 1991 Porsche 911 Turbo.
Your seller, chicagolights200@aol.com, has informed eBay that your payment
hasn't been
received yet.
We have insured this item and the seller is expecting the payment by Western
Union
wire transfer.
If you have already sent payment or intend to pay soon, please contact the
seller at
chicagolights200@aol.com immediately. Simple misunderstandings are often
resolved through
direct communication.

We advise you to send the wire transfer as soon as possible.

** Do not reply to this email. All you need to do is contact your seller.**
You and your seller are encouraged to work things out in the next three days. If
this
situation is resolved during this time, the matter is dropped and you do not
need to take
any further action.
If, however, your seller is still unsatisfied after this period, you may receive
a Non Paying
Bidder (NPB) warning from eBay. Once you obtain one warning on your record you
will
be suspended for 30 days. If you receive a second warning, suspension will last
indefinitely.
Please note that eBay does not take the side of the buyer or seller --
understand that we
are only trying to help you and your seller trade successfully. Remember: Your
seller is
under no obligation to "hold" your item since much time has already passed.

Regards,

eBay Account Suspension Team (Trust and Safety Department)
eBay Inc.

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[Oldporsche]

Whenever I sell a car, I have the buyer meet me at his bank where he has the money.

I always ask for cash.

Yours truly,
David Duffield

[Tinton]

Looks like this is another scam

[copper]

Clearly it was...

The item is gone.

What was it?

Jim

[Tinton]

Car was a 74 Targa with a buy now price of AUD $8,500. It had the same style sale as the 930 in the original post...must have been the same fraudster.