I just couldn't leave it alone

dmcummins · 11-06-2004, 11:54 AM

This is the 73 coupe I bought last summer

And now

After seeing all the cool RS, RSR, Groupe R, GroupeB, and lightweight early cars , I can't deceid which way to go. I have some rust repair to do. The fender attachment posts and the front fenders were in poor shape. The fenders looked ok till I pulled them off. They were rusted where they attached.

The car was originally silver but there is no signs of it where I sanded around the rockers and fender. The inside doors and interior shows some though.

Im leaning to the lightweight look. I may delete the trim and go with RS carpet. But some flares would look cool to. I would think the lightweight look would be cheaper though and this will just be a weekend street toy.

dmcummins · 11-06-2004, 11:59 AM

Here is an engine pic

I don't know what up with the fuel filter and accumulator. I know this is not right. The engine is actually a 72 block but I have no idea about the cis. I assume they just swithced the top end over but I don't know. It does seem to run good. I picked the car up about 150 miles from home and drove it here with no problems. I go out and start it from time to time and exept for some smoke at start up, if its been sitting, it seems fine.

wicked9 · wicked9's Garage

Mark, just do an RSR, then we can compare them during the builds.
Len in Spanish Lake.
I bought another as well. I now have 2 to do.

dmcummins · 11-06-2004, 12:24 PM

Hi Len. How's it comming on the first one? Why two? Wait I have two, never mind.

dmcummins · 11-06-2004, 12:25 PM

Len, did you ever get a new motor ?

wicked9 · wicked9's Garage

Yes, I have a 3.6 that will go into the RSR look. The RS look will be for the Wifey, Read looong term project...
Both are 71T. One has a modified 2.2 that I will run in the wifes car for a little wile, it will eventually have a 3.0/3.2.

All is well, I need to go to texas to pick up number 2, It is at my brothers.
The second one gives me more time in the winter, only 1 spot of rust that may be or may not be a real concern. The rest is very solid. You saw the first and you seen what I have to do to it.
Surprisingly the first one, was not as bad as I thought.
The rockers were on the outside only....
Len

masraum · 11-06-2004, 12:39 PM

It looked darn good before you started messing with it except for the cheap tires. I'm sure it'll look even better once you've had your way with it.

dmcummins · 11-06-2004, 02:51 PM

I wasn't happy with the paint. The rocker on the drivers side also didn't look quite right. First I found some bondo, but it was over a welded patch so that wasn't so bad.

I want to make this a nice driver. I just have to make up my mind on what I'm going to do with it.

Any suggestions?

RSBob · RSBob's Garage

Dude, are you insane?? - Cutting up that nice car to make an R-car or RSR look?? IMHO, that is a GREAT idea and a great way to dress up a T. Looking forward to seeing your work in progress. Any color choice? Back to silver?

HarryD · 11-06-2004, 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by dmcummins
Here is an engine pic

I don't know what up with the fuel filter and accumulator. I know this is not right. The engine is actually a 72 block but I have no idea about the cis. I assume they just swithced the top end over but I don't know. It does seem to run good. I picked the car up about 150 miles from home and drove it here with no problems. I go out and start it from time to time and exept for some smoke at start up, if its been sitting, it seems fine.

This is what I did to fit a later filter in my 1973.5 CIS:

The acuumulator is stock for the car and in the stock location.

Later cars are arranged like this:

dmcummins · 11-06-2004, 08:58 PM

Thanks Harry. What I dont get is there is a line running out of the bottom of the accumulator that run into a T I believe. Did the later models have this. Is there a way to tell what year CIS is on the car. Does it make a difference.

HarryD · 11-06-2004, 09:11 PM

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Originally posted by dmcummins
Thanks Harry. What I dont get is there is a line running out of the bottom of the accumulator that run into a T I believe. Did the later models have this. Is there a way to tell what year CIS is on the car. Does it make a difference.

I would think that the line coming into the bottom of the accumulator is the one from the fuel pump. If that is the case, I would that this is not a good location for a tee.

FWIW, the stock install of my 1973 looked like this:

bob tilton · bob tilton's Garage

one of my favorite black cars:

dmcummins · 11-07-2004, 05:44 AM

Thanks Bob, thats what Im thinking about. I'll probably repaint in silver though. I also like your car.

Harry , the line comming out of the bottom is a small line the same as from the fuel distributor. I'll try and get a better pic. The guy I bought it from actually had two fuel pumps on the car. I still havn't figured that out. There was an original one in the stock location and then he had an inline one before the accumulator. I took the inline one off and the car seems to run fine. He had a local Porche salvage yard do the work for him and I don't know if they were just selling parts or what. I don't have alot in the car at this time so I figure it was worth the gamble.

Paulporsche · 11-07-2004, 06:28 AM

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Joeaksa · 11-07-2004, 06:29 AM

Bob's car looks nice but I also like the early RS cars as well. The RSR is a bit over the top for me on a street car but its up to the individual.

Agree that your filter and plumbing needs to be re-arranged. You might want to yank the engine/tranny and detail the engine compartment when you do all of this, and that would be a perfect time to clean up the plumbing and install a new insulation on the firewall.

JoeA

bob tilton · bob tilton's Garage

random silver cars:

HarryD · 11-07-2004, 07:59 AM

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Originally posted by dmcummins
Thanks Bob, thats what Im thinking about. I'll probably repaint in silver though. I also like your car.

Harry , the line comming out of the bottom is a small line the same as from the fuel distributor. I'll try and get a better pic. The guy I bought it from actually had two fuel pumps on the car. I still havn't figured that out. There was an original one in the stock location and then he had an inline one before the accumulator. I took the inline one off and the car seems to run fine. He had a local Porche salvage yard do the work for him and I don't know if they were just selling parts or what. I don't have alot in the car at this time so I figure it was worth the gamble.

FWIW, here is the arrangement of the system per the PET:

The line (#18) from the fuel pump goes to the accumulator (#19) which then flow into the Filter (#23). The outlet of the filter goes to the fuel distributor. As you can see, there is no second line and there is only one fuel pump.

dmcummins · 11-07-2004, 08:38 AM

Here is what I have.

I have a line going from the fuel pump to the accumulator that then goes to the fuel filter and then to the fuel distributor. I also have a fitting on the bottom of the accumulator that goes to the bracket shown here.

Im guessing that this is a setup for another year. I have a 73.5 accumulator and filer bracket that I purchased and it is obviously different. I can fab a bracket for what I have but I'd like to know what to order if I need parts in the future.

HarryD · 11-07-2004, 08:58 AM

I can't see very well the extra line that goes to the fuel accumulator. But I am thinking that the car might have had an MFI before and the plumbing is a bit different.

There is thread here where they show the details of the MFI Fuel filter and the there are four connections to the filter. You can see it here: MFI Fuel Starvation...Out of ideas.....help please