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Spinning Shifter, That Can't Be Right

Well last night I took my center console apart on my '86 Carrera to find out why it is hard to shift out of 5th. Turns out my shifter was slightly turned so that the 5th and reverse notches could not slide smoothly onto their plates (not sure what the correct name is for these metal tabs) Anyway, I found that I could take the shifter (not the knob, but the entire shifter) and turn it in a complete circle. Now I know that isn't right. The Bentley manual appears to show a pin that keeps the shifter from turning, but before I tear the shifter housing apart this weekend I was hoping to get confirmation from the group. So is this pin what I need?

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You are missing the pin that goes left to right through the shifter?

How are you able to drive the car at all?

The pin is probably rolling around in the tunnel somewhere, replace it and make sure the clips are in place.

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You are missing the pin that goes left to right through the shifter?
How are you able to drive the car at all?
The pin is probably rolling around in the tunnel somewhere, replace it and make sure the clips are in place.
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Scott you confirmed what I thought. Actually even without the pin the shifter is not that easy to turn. I will be looking for that little bugger this weekend. Thanks for the quick response!
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Kurt: While you have the shifter out, replace all the bushings. You won't be sorry!

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My weltmeister short shifter did that. A spot weld broke and it rotated freely. ***** to drive, obviously. So much for weltmeister. I got a factory short shift from a wrecked '86 and installed that.
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Kurt: While you have the shifter out, replace all the bushings. You won't be sorry!

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Are you going to do the coupler bushings as well?
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Are you going to do the coupler bushings as well?
Nope, actually my shifter, even with this present problem, has always been fairly tight and the tranny shifts well. Given the potential problems with installing the coupler bushings, I will save that for another day, or when I start having problems with shifting. My experience has been that the shifter bushings are responsible for most "sloppy" shifters. I probably don't need the shifter bushings, but they are so easy to install I might as well do it while I have the shifter out.
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Kurt, my shifter (albeit a G50) was always very tight and my ball cup bushing broke at the track two wks. ago. It wasn't a gradual thing either - it was a sudden break and made shifting a little more interesting. As long as you have it all apart, it's no extra labor, costs next to nothing and may prevent your having to R&R the shifter housing again the next day.
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Richard I am doing the shifter bushing and the ball cup bushing, just not doing the bronze coupler bushings.
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Kurt,
It sounds like the upper pat of the shift lever has separated from the lower part which contains the ball and pivot hole. It's held together with epoxy glue or something. Clean, reinstall, re-orient, then tack weld together.

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Yes, what Sherwood said. The shifter shaft and the shifter nub are two separate pieces and are epoxied into one another. Easiest way to get rid of all that old epoxy is to burn it out, like over a gas stove. Warning though, you might want to do it outdoors, as there will be a lot of black smoke. Then use a some 80 grit sandpaper to remove any residue and you can epoxy it back together, use JB Weld, or as Sherwood suggests, tack weld them together.
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Hugh and Sherwood are the grand prize winners. I disassembled the shifter on Saturday and sure enough the shaft and the nub were no longer one solid piece. I can't believe Porsche used epoxy to hold these two very vital parts together! Got out the mig welder and in a couple of minutes ran a weld around the two parts. I doubt I will have this problem again!
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