69 911e, what to pay

935PROJECT · 04-07-2005, 09:16 PM

Ok so it looks like I have located a 1969 911e targa, its pretty much a barn find, its been sitting in a warehouse for about 12 years. I haven't seen the car yet and won't until after the owner gets back to town after the 15th of april. But what I do know that the the car is supposed to be in very good condition, the front suspension pan has been replaced and the bottom totally rust proofed, the interior is nice and the engine is either a 2.0 or a 2.2, it has been fully rebuilt and has less than 5000 miles on the rebuild, at the same time he put a brand new tranny in. Not sure if that means an actual new one or a if he fully rebuilt another one, I know its not the stock tranny and I don't think the motor is matching either. Sorry the details are a little vague, its been a long time since hes seen the car out of the warehouse. He said one of his employees started it either last year or the year before just for kicks and got it going.
It also comes with another 69 coupe roller, with rust around the rear torsion bars.
So if the info above actually is correct what would you guys be willing to pay?
BASICALLY-Rust free, straight body, decent interior, fully rebuilt engine and tranny (non matching), hasn't been a driver in about 12 years but has been driven for a few days about 7 years ago and not really started since.

The cars are being sold together.
Also what should I look for on this car, like htings specific to this year or the early cars in general. I know the rust areas and stuff pretty well but not the early engines and suspensions. sorry for the long post thanks a ton.

935PROJECT · 04-07-2005, 09:42 PM

Sorry wrong forum can someone please move this?? thanks

jluetjen · jluetjen's Garage

If the engine and transmission rebuild have been documented by a known shop -- good. That will increase the value of the car and take those items off of the potential problem list. If there is no documentation or it's a no-name shop, then it's a "pig in a poke" and will discount the value by potential repair/rebuild costs in the near future. If the engine starts and runs nice and pulls strong with no leaks, that's good. If for any reason the owner can't support these things happening, then once again the premise is that the engine and the transaxle will need a rebuild. Also take a couple of thou off if the MFI is missing. Don't buy the crap about carbs being an upgrade!

If it were me and my money, I'd be leaning to towards a ~$6K-$8K price for the set until he can prove that the engine and transmission are as good as he makes it out. If they are, the price can be up in the $10K-$15K range. Discount the price from there for any signs of rust (don't be shy about poking around with a screw driver to prove to yourself that the body is sound), or if the interior is shabby. Keep in mind that the tires will be junk, the fuel system will need to be flushed, etc. etc.

BTW - Have you checked out these threads yet?

935PROJECT · 04-08-2005, 07:20 PM

Anyone else?

Evans, Marv · 04-08-2005, 09:17 PM

Dave:
There are a ton of guys on the board who have '69Es, so they might chime in. I bought mine a couple of years ago for $3K. The car also hadn't been run in several years. Right now I have the whole thing disassembled, being painted and I'll be putting upgraded stuff in it when I put it back together. The problem with cars that have sat for a long time is that a lot of little things deteriorate and need attention or replacement. All of the rubber probably should be replaced. I would count on rebuilding the brake system before I drove it anywhere. That includes calipers, new flex lines and master cylinder. Although the engines can run OK after setting for a long time, I'd lubricate everything, change all of the oil & fluids, flush the fuel system well, run some Techron through it, and put some Marvel oil in the gas for the first few tanks. You might consider changing the valve springs. They can loose some of their tension after being depressed & in the same position for years. I wouldn't pay much over $5K to $6K for a car that has been setting for a long time unless it is really pristine otherwise.