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ErVikingo 01-13-2005 09:35 AM

That is my poitn with Carfax Wil. People think its the Holy Grail... If it shows something great but it might not. It certainly is NO substitute to a proper inspection. That's my point. A lot of people put way too mich reliance on it.

Case in point, my brother was buying a 2004 745iL recently. Carfax was perfectly clean. When inspecting the car, some overspray was noticed. To make long story short, car had been repaired (fender, hood, strut) and the carfax was clean...

No substitute for an inspection.

scottb 01-13-2005 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crachian
I would think about getting a second competent opinion if for no other reason to make it easier to shell out that dough.
Take it up to Kevin at Automotive Innovations and Restorations and let him take a look.

scottb 01-13-2005 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by john walker's workshop
didn't the bent struts and poor repair show up during the alignment?
Apparently not.....nor did they find all the rust. Makes ya wonder....:eek:

450knotOffice 01-13-2005 10:40 AM

Does anyone have valid number for Kevin? I did a search and came up with a disconnected one.

-Scott

scottb 01-13-2005 10:49 AM

The number I have is 818 786 2181. If that's not working, send him an e-mail or PM (KevinP73). He posts pretty regularly, so he must be online a lot.

Grady Clay 01-13-2005 11:08 AM

On the Carfax issue:
I think PAG and PCNA should take the point on this. Ford built far more cars in one year than the total production of all Porsche vehicles. Why can’t there be a data base with every car Porsche ever manufactured? I’ll bet someday all the governments require this from the auto manufacturers. Start now.

With today’s automatic search techniques, it shouldn’t be difficult to have every bit of public information about a particular VIN. That is what Carfax does. Porsche can combine this with their proprietary data base and offer it to owners free in a way where others can’t mine it.

There could be a provision for owners to correct misinformation and add current technical stuff such a color and equipment. Pelican, Early 911, PCA, R-Groupp, and many others have some info, why not additionally put it in one place.

Just think how valuable this would be to prospective buyers to easily research a Porsche’s provenance. Just think how hard this would be on the thieves and criminals trafficking in stolen cars and parts. Sellers would benefit from the provenance of the Porsche and higher sale price. Porsche would make more money because their cars can be purchased with more confidence.

This is one more area where Porsche can gain very valuable customer support with very little cost.

How many Pelicans have a copy of the original MSO and title sequence?
How many know all that has been done to your 911 prior to your ownership?
What if Scott had had easy and free access to his 911’s prior history?

Best,
Grady

PRE-H20 01-13-2005 11:29 AM

Scott,

im very sorry to hear of the front clip, sorry to hear of the tension with the wife. no good can come of this......... but that black cab is yours, all yours, take the good with the bad, and the really bad, and if your like the rest of us, at the end of the day youll still be looking it at it before you go to bed.

one of the guys has a tag line that hits home for me "the porsche broke down again, oh yea!" something like that and i love it.

i have had my old girl for 10 yrs now, could never ever ever get the $ back i have put into her, but i am NOT

PRE-H20 01-13-2005 11:31 AM

giving her up for nothing, EVER. and i am still looking at her before i go to bed....... as jacked up, and leaking oil as she is...... she mine.

anyone else with me?

450knotOffice 01-13-2005 11:42 AM

Alex, your positive attitude always makes me smile...

PRE-H20 01-13-2005 11:51 AM

ok,.... since no one chimed in i guess i have a freakishly odd love for me old girl (but i really really really doubt im the ONLY one)

scott glad to shed a lil positive light on this...... after you are done with this little hiccup, imagine how attached you will be to your cab later.......

if i could only apply this committment to a girl............. damn! hehehehe.

KevinP73 01-13-2005 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 450knotOffice
Does anyone have valid number for Kevin? I did a search and came up with a disconnected one.

-Scott

I paid the phone bill............. really.

Rob Channell 01-13-2005 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 450knotOffice
I'm getting a bit of flack from my wife about this. Understandably. I called Pristine and told them to put it back together so I could take it home. Looks like I'm going to have to save the cash for the job (instead of the 'ol plastic).

-Scott

Yes. Hide the plastic and do the cash.http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/loki5.gif I put a few things on plastic in 1996 when I was traveling in California for a year......

[SHOW_STUPIDITY]

It was always "I'm only here(California....you know.....Willow Springs, Sears Point, Laguna Seca, ButtonWillow, Gran Prix of Ensenada......) for a little while and I might not get another chance".

Custom shocks, fiberglass body parts, tranny rebuild plus mods, a few sets of tires, new set of wheels, track event entry fees(averaged 2+ events/month for 9 months), hotels, gas money......... My car had been paid off for 3 years at this point. It probably didn't help having done this right after a divorce that left me in some debt to start with anyway. I justified it as my therapy. Ain't rationalization great?

I expect to have it all paid off this year. :) Yes, I was very stupid. :( I now recommend a book by Dave Ramsey called "Financial Peace". He is against consumer debt except for a house. His method is working for me as it is more about emotion and behaviour than mathematics. This year I will be out of debt except for a house and I plan to keep it that way. Let your cash work for you instead of against you. If I want a new car I'll save up.

[/SHOW_STUPIDITY]

I wish I had been smarter.........

Elombard 01-13-2005 07:03 PM

Good Advice Rob! I like Ramseys radio show - some times he gets a little "god fearin". If he would leave some of that out he would be great. I am sure he would not approve of the Porsche Drug :-))

Jack Olsen 01-13-2005 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by alexander911
ok,.... since no one chimed in i guess i have a freakishly odd love for me old girl (but i really really really doubt im the ONLY one)
You're not alone. I have an infatuation and devotion that probably borders on something unhealthy.

If I ever had kids, how would I explain why there are a hundred pictures of the car for every one of them? :eek:

Wayne 962 01-13-2005 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JackOlsen
If I ever had kids, how would I explain why there are a hundred pictures of the car for every one of them? :eek:
I suspect that you would suddenly find that mini-Jack and BBII are in photos together quite a bit. :)

Scott - I like second opinions. If the car aligned properly, and it's safe to drive, I don't really see too much point in spending $4K to repair the damage. Just patch it with some POR-15 and drive it...

-Wayne

450knotOffice 01-13-2005 11:26 PM

My wife would call me <I>obsessed</I> about my car. Jack, if only my wife would allow me to spend the kind of money you have on your beaut...

I went to work today and had a chance to forget my troubles for a bit::D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1105691073.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1105691097.jpg

-Scott

PRE-H20 01-14-2005 09:42 AM

You're not alone. I have an infatuation and devotion that probably borders on somethi
 
Jack,.... whew..... i was seriously getting concerned that no-one made a comment,.........


as chanced may have it, your comment makes complete and utter sense to me.

ALEXANDER: hi, my name is alexander and i am a porsche-a-holic!

GROUP: hhhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii alexander,.....................

:)

niner11 01-14-2005 10:13 AM

Jungle jet?

KevinP73 01-14-2005 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 450knotOffice


I went to wrok today and had a chance to forget my troubles for a bit::D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1105691073.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1105691097.jpg

-Scott

ya know Scott....if we could get that whole "Take your body man to work day" thing going maybe we could work something out! Does your office go supersonic?

450knotOffice 01-14-2005 11:41 PM

Supersonic? I wish, but not quite. It'll do at least .78 mach though which is about 525 mph.

Gives me a chance to get my mind off of big repair jobs.;)

-Scott


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