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88'3xBlk911Cab 02-05-2005 07:11 PM

MB Quart model question
 
I am looking to replace my door speakers with a 5-1/4 MB Quart but wanted to see which model that other Pelican's have used & liked.

DKD-113 about $80
DKE-113 about $90
RKC-113 about $110

What are your preferences and which model would be best for my 88' cab which only has two speakers in the entire car?

RANDY P 02-05-2005 07:15 PM

Do the 6.5" instead, it's a better fit. I know the stats say 5.25" but a 6.5" is what is required.

Also, I reccomend going up a step up from the Discus....You'll be fine.

rjp

88'3xBlk911Cab 02-05-2005 07:18 PM

So the 6.5" will fit without modifying the factory door cut out?

RANDY P 02-05-2005 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 88'3xBlk911Cab
So the 6.5" will fit without modifying the factory door cut out?
Yep, in fact it's a better fit. Absolutely no mods required - except ditching the factory grille if that's what you're presently using.

rjp

88'3xBlk911Cab 02-05-2005 07:32 PM

Thanks! With all the different models of MB Quarts which one is the best for a 2 speaker limit?

CARRERIC 02-05-2005 08:19 PM

Just installed a set of RCE 216, Excellent speakers.

http://ikesound.com/

RANDY P 02-06-2005 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 88'3xBlk911Cab
Thanks! With all the different models of MB Quarts which one is the best for a 2 speaker limit?
One step above Discus pricewise is what I have, and you WILL need amplification to make 'em work properly - if you are using the head unit and that's it then I reccomend something lighter lke Pioneer Co -ax's in 6.5". Even a basic 50x2 RMS brand name amp underneath the driver's seat is fine. Mine are powered by a 150W RMS and it's strong enough to be heard down the street with the windows open. Great, natural sound since the Quarts are really good at low frequency response - given there are no subs in your car it's the next best thing.

rjp

88'3xBlk911Cab 02-06-2005 03:45 PM

Are the component sets worth the extra hassle of modifying my doors? Pretty much my interior is 100% factory and in really good condition. I found the DKE-116 for $99. I also located the RCE-216 component set for $152. But I can't find the RCE-116 at all in a non-component set, Is the difference between the single Dsicus 6.5" speakers and the component sets that drastic? We are trying to decide if we go for the components and modify the doors......I will be buying a Kicker amp to power is all.

CARRERIC 02-06-2005 03:55 PM

I think on my RCE 216 that I just installed, the tweeter can be plugged into the cone of the speaker. That was an option. I chose to mouny separetley higher on the door.

They are fantastic sound. You can probably go on there website and review the instillation instructions.

MarkY 02-06-2005 04:36 PM

Re: MB Quart model question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by 88'3xBlk911Cab
I am looking to replace my door speakers with a 5-1/4 MB Quart but wanted to see which model that other Pelican's have used & liked.

DKD-113 about $80
DKE-113 about $90
RKC-113 about $110

I'm not as familiar with MB Quart as I used to be, when I had them installed about 5 years ago. But I do remember that when I purchased them, you couldn't touch MB Quart for the prices listed above.

Their prices must have really fallen. FWIW, I love MB Quart speakers.

RANDY P 02-07-2005 07:21 AM

The co-ax's will be easier to set up -

Remember that sound originates from a central point. Having a speaker set that has the tweeters mounted in a different location, with different distances to your ears than your mids will not be as accurate as a co-axial (with both drivers emenating sound from the same point)

Same rule applies when choosing rear speakers - never choose anthing that has the ability to out play the front in terms of volume.

rjp

mtelliott 02-07-2005 08:25 AM

Have to disagree on the coax better. Lower hertz sound (woofer) is not directional therefore mounting location is not as important. Higher hertz (tweeter) is directional therefore you want an unobstructed path to the soundstage (i.e. your Ears).. Therefore, having the tweeters mounted in a way that provides a better path to the soundstage is better, to a point. You don't want the tweeters separate from the woofer by more than 18 inches (some say 12), but a little separation can be good to get the tweeter sound unobstructed by your knee (where the woofer is mounted).

jorian 02-07-2005 09:21 AM

What about the depth of the 6.5's? Do you need to build out the trim ring or grille?

RANDY P 02-07-2005 04:41 PM

The quarts are a drop in fit, no spacers are required.

All the above is the correct info, if someone takes the time to set up seperates (paying attention to distance, and phasing) they are superior.

Drawback is a hacked door panel though.

rjp

88'3xBlk911Cab 02-08-2005 09:42 AM

Thanks for all the help. I just ordered the MB Quart 6.5" RCE-116 and a nice amp to power them. Thanks again Randy for all your help :D

PRE-H20 02-08-2005 09:55 AM

you'll like the MB Quarts.... i put them in my doors also.

sounds great, crisp and clean....

RANDY P 02-08-2005 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 88'3xBlk911Cab
Thanks for all the help. I just ordered the MB Quart 6.5" RCE-116 and a nice amp to power them. Thanks again Randy for all your help :D
Anytime. Gonna sound good- I've been a quart customer for 13+ years now. Those are the only drivers I use these days -

fastpat 04-16-2005 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RANDY P
The quarts are a drop in fit, no spacers are required.

All the above is the correct info, if someone takes the time to set up seperates (paying attention to distance, and phasing) they are superior.

Drawback is a hacked door panel though.

rjp

There must be more than one type of speaker installed in late 80's 911's. I attempted to install a MBQuart 6.5 inch speaker in my door in place of the Blaupunkt 5.25 that was factory installed and it did not fit at all. Since the Blau's were shot, cone suspension completely shredded, and paper cones at that I purchased a set of MBQuart Discus series (their low end) 113's which dropped right in, and using the included metal retaining ring was able to use the OEM fasteners and grills. Looks exactly like it did when it came from Porsche.

One strange thing, there are tweeter grills and mounts in place, but speakers were never installed under the grills. Nice for me, I'll install a crossover and tweeters in the factory location, but I didn't know Porsche did that.

Jared at Pelican Parts 04-16-2005 09:50 PM

I've got MB Quart 6.5's in the doors on my SC, no mods to the metal, or factory grilles, they just slipped in behind the door panels...

plain fan 04-17-2005 06:37 AM

Do the speakers install behind the panel or on top of the panel? (For 6.5" speakers and tweeters)


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