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Makes your car look skinny Jack...=
It's true. Here's both of them at a similar point:

RSR:



RSR-and-then-some:

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Looking better as its comming together, great pics Jack, keep us posted.
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Yep, makes your flares look sedate Jack! Time for BBIII
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Mike, no more autocrossing for you!

Those flares are monsterous!
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The one thing a corner would hear as you went by at an autocross is:

thud,thud,thud,thud,thud,thud,thud,thud,thud,thud, thud,thud.....
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Pelicans thank you for your enthusiasm. I along with the skilled shops assisting in this project really appreciate it. Much of the inspiration to attempt this project came from years of viewing your projects on this board.

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Big fenders make a big hole too, I'll be everyone’s favorite tow down the straights. Ted’s towing service. Be prepared should I ever take your air in the middle of the NASCAR bank at Fontana.

Chuck, you are correct they started with basic turbo flares.

Randy and Slider, yes with the new super wide fenders competing at an AX now would be like allowing everyone else to have a lane 18 inches wider than mine. Plus the shift point in 1st with the 27 inch tall rear tires is about 70mph.

Jack thanks for the comparison.
These rear flares clear 27 inch tall rear tires on a chassis with a very low ride height.
The flares are mounted higher than stock, with a little less slope.
While the BB2 flares were probably designed to clear 25 inch tall rear tires.
How much did you have to modifiy the shape of your fenders?


Here are some recent engine photos.
Vic custom fit the early tin to the 3.6.
The tin will be powder coated 60% gloss black.
He routed the Nololgy plug (rather long) wires 3.2 style.
Engine and trans are ready for install. Thanks Vic!



Before the drive train is installed the car is going to return to the cage shop for some fabrication to strengthen the rear cross member.
It is a slick modification Cary from ERP Suspension Engineering and Jae at Mirage International designed together. You're up to date for now.

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You gonna be ready for the AROSC race at Buttonwillow? I can't wait to see the finished product.
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Looking great hope the extra Hp will make up for the air you will need to push out of the way.

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Jack thanks for the comparison. These rear flares clear 27 inch tall rear tires on a chassis with a very low ride height. The flares are mounted higher than stock, with a little less slope. While the BB2 flares were probably designed to clear 25 inch tall rear tires. How much did you have to modifiy the shape of your fenders?
Mine are just RSR flares. They're basically the same as Turbo flares.

In front, mine are a little narrower than Turbo flares. I can only fit 255's.
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Hi Ted! Thats one big butt, very cool! I feel compelled to mention that while you're doing all this work, if your not doing it already, you should have your rear torsion tube mounts reinforced. They tend to crack...here what mine looked like before and almost after. If left unchecked, the crack can split the entire rear.


After repair (still some final welding left to do):


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You gonna be ready for the AROSC race at Buttonwillow? I can't wait to see the finished product.
Thanks Anthony, cutting it close that was my goal early on. The schedule had to change with the addition of 4 major mods. The rear crossmember and pick up point mods to name a couple.
Compared to your 40+ track days last year you too must be anxious and ready for a race day! Good luck racing.

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You are right, it's all relative. In fact I'll be the one looking for a tow down the straight. The car before with a 225hp 3.2 and 17x8s and 10s was a momentum car. I expect with these slicks and 300hp 3.6 it will remain a momentum car. I did snag a set of big valve CMW heads when the need for more speed arrives.
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Hi Ted! Thats one big butt, very cool! Have your rear torsion tube mounts reinforced. They tend to crack...
Best of luck!
Thanks Rjay very good point. From what I understand with the factory type spring plate grommets this is a common track car issue. From what I've been told the ERP spring plate mount with its snug fitting torsion tube billet insert helps take the stress off the spring plate cover bolts and places it inside the torsion tube.


Rjay I really like your torsion bar bridle. Something similar will be done to my car. Actually we are deleting the spring plate covers entirely. Jae and Cary decided to move the spring plate pick up point above the torsion tube. A threaded bung welded to the top of the torsion bar tube will provide the pick up for the heim joint.
Something similar to 911 race car prep in the 70s.
The new pivot point will be where the yellow dot is on your picture.
Thanks for your comments and pictures.
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Rjay I really like your torsion bar bridle. Something similar will be done to my car. Actually we are deleting the spring plate covers entirely. Jae and Cary decided to move the spring plate pick up point above the torsion tube. A threaded bung welded to the top of the torsion bar tube will provide the pick up for the heim joint.
Something similar to 911 race car prep in the 70s.
The new pivot point will be where the yellow dot is on your picture.
Thanks for your comments and pictures.
Interesting, love to see what it looks like in the end. My bridle (damn good word for that!) is in in anticpation of installing ERP spring plates as well.
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Joe at Axiom sent a photo update of the flare progress for the last half of this week. Imho his working speed is second only to his shop's fabricating skills.
Jae (Mirage International) and I are very happy with the progress and quality at Axiom Motorsport.

Photos of rear flare fabrication and widening of the fiberglass rear bumper to match. Joe uses double steel greased plates under the tires to keep the car fully settled at the proper ride height.

Morning sun in LA, my car and a bunch of head shots of hopeful LA models/waitresses.
Joe and I just doing our thing helping these young ladies get discovered.




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This is Porsche porn at its best!

I'll be taking you up on that offer of a ride Mike
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I've seen nology wires used on my other car... didn't know, and didn't even check, to see if they made wires for the P-cars! Nice!
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You got it Mike!
Thanks Fray.

Joe dropped me a note before he left work Friday.
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Hey, Mike here are the last pix, before closing time, enjoy
The rear is almost done. Joe's 8x10 wall of fame. Axiom added turbo flares and painted the yellow 911 widebody too. Side by side it provides some comparison to the difference in shape and size of the custom flares on the white 911.

Extending the rear bumper.

Getting the contours to match.

Filling in the rear bumper.

The final shape of the rear flares, skim coat of filling and fine sanding to follow.
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Awesome looking car can't wait to see the finsihed PICS

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So Mike...how many zip codes is that rear anyway
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