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European Rear Bumper Gards change over?

What is required to convert the big rear USA Bumper Gards to the european style on a 3.2 Carrera?

Is the following what is needed"

911-505-341-00-M136 Rear Bumper Guard, left, USA (1974), European, 911 (1974-83) $185.25

911-505-342-00-M136 Rear Bumper Guard, right, USA (1974), European, 911 (1974-83) Brand: OEM

Any holes that need filling?

Do we just use the lic lights off the USA's?

Thx

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On my '86 I was going to remove the bumpers and install two Hella tag lights like the ones shown below to be legal. I'll post the part numbers and prices tomorrow.
It appears there are holes to fill and then drill.

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Wrong photo, I'll find it and post it. It's a clean look, just two black plastic tag lights.
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You have holes to fill, you have holes to drill, you may use the stock US tag lights.


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I'm going through this mental dilemma myself right now - pretty much determined that both filling and drilling ARE required. Fair warning too - different Euro bumper guards for '74-'84 and '85-'89. I sure do like the LOOK and lighter weight of the Euros - if I can find a set for my '88, I'll probably do it! (Anyone - anyone?)

Which begs the question - has anyone else done this; if so, were they able to fill & drill without removing the rear bumper? I'm guessing "no", since properly "filling" would involve the requisite metal "glue gun", aka welder...
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I picked up a 74/euro rear bumper for my conversion. It is still off the car without the bumperettes mounted if you need any pictures or measurements of where the holes are located.

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I dont like the look of the US bumperettes at all...and the euro versions dont look much better in my opinion...so I did the same thing teamfee did

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I think Buckterrier has one of the better "bumperette delete" setups on a Carrera.


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Yes, I have though of a delete of the bumperette all togeather with the IROC lic lights.

Sounds like the bumperetts offered by out hose are not what is needed for my 85.

Thanks guys.
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I did some resarch on this a while back and I believe that you need the euro bumperettes from the turbo bumper to make this work. The difference from what I recall is that the angle of the valance.
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From PET:

For Euro Carreras 84+
L:930.505.031.00
R:930.505.032.00

For US Carreras 84+ (and M215 market 86+)
L:930.505.031.01
R:930.505.032.01
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Ditch em......
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does anyone have some pics with the bumperetts off the bumper so we can see the hole arrangement???
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Hope it helps. 86 930.


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Getty has fiberglass un-drilled stock syle bumper blades.
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I think Buckterrier has one of the better "bumperette delete" setups on a Carrera.


These appear to be Hella 1385 Series tag lights that come standard in chrome 00138624-95207 (need 2) and 12V 5W bulb H83100011-79203 (need 2) These are more rounded and bsically the ones you see on BMW 2002 tag frames that are actually 1385 series.

There is also a more 83-89 look Hella 3389 Series in black and a little bigger and more angular 003389061-95185 (need 2) and 12V 10W bulb H83035101-78235 These are only about $20-$25 ead + bulb. I am ordering 4 to see if a pair works.
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Where does one order the lights from?
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I work at a BMW Motorcycle dealer and am ordering them. Our US distributor has a minimum order because they are not stocked in the US and it's going on our next stock order from them. I'll keep you posted but an Hella guy should be able to get them in 14-21 days.
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heres mine from the modified bumper thread
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here's a thread that pretty much answers all your questions

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The official modified bumpers thread!!!

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