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rdane 03-23-2005 05:57 PM

who had the first ducktail and when?
 
I know the Paris show in the fall of '72s showed the original RS with the first ducktails. When were the first ducktails available on the production cars like the E, S and Ts?

Peter Gregg won some big races in the summer and early fall of '72 with no duck tail as did other factory "sponsored" drivers and no ducks to be seen in my reference material till early '73. Anyone know anything different?

Question? When was the first factory duck delivered and on what model car? Looking for speciifc months and year?

jmz 03-23-2005 07:04 PM

what are you up to dude? that's a somewhat odd question, that I have absolutely no idea what the answer is.

rdane 03-23-2005 07:10 PM

Speculating ;) Just speculating.

Bill Verburg 03-23-2005 07:14 PM

Yes, the end of '72 was when the "Ducktail" became available on the Carrera RS models, it was never offered officially on lesser models but a cottage industry soon developed making the fakes, which started showing up everywhere. The ducktail could also be purchased for considerably more cash from Porsche as an aftermarket part.

rdane 03-23-2005 07:29 PM

Thanks Bill. So it seems the factory road cars in '73/'74 were pretty rare with a duck on the COA. Anyone have an original price list for the price of the factory tail on special order with the car?

Finally how were the very first / early tails made?

Bill Verburg 03-23-2005 07:33 PM

In '73 only the Carrera RS had the duck, in '74 it was available on the lesser(cis engine) US Carrera as well, not many came that way, as the T&#220V issues which begat the rubber edged whales were in the air

Kaama 03-23-2005 07:47 PM

There was a guy in high school we called 'Duck' Latusso because of his ducktail hairdo- That was in 1971, so he beat Porsche by 2 years on that.

Duck Latusso's kids probably wore mulletts in the mid 80's, but the first whale tail sorta looks like a mullett, especially the long RSR/934 version.

Business up front, party in the back!!!

Seriously, this is a good question.

rdane 03-23-2005 07:50 PM

Who is the guy in Florida making original style ducks?

island911 03-23-2005 08:02 PM

original style ducks. ..

he's making aluminum duck tails?

rdane 03-23-2005 08:05 PM

Steel frames and plastic duck glassed on. $1500 last I heard.
Dude in Cali doing them in Alumninum. Never had the courage to call on them.

island911 03-23-2005 08:10 PM

hmmm. . hardly seems "original" .. .as in $1500 worth.

somewhere I have a pic of an aluminum original. it's stripped of paint, just for effect.

MotoSook 03-23-2005 08:10 PM

Dane, I have a ducktail that should have never left the factory which I will cut and graph onto a steel decklid...why not have your body guy do that for you? Or is that not close enough for you?

skinnerd 03-23-2005 08:11 PM

try this on for size...........

http://www.mbhinc.com/html/duck_tails.html

;)

rdane 03-23-2005 08:14 PM

Tryring to figure out what the ducks were made from in '72 and '73. The original STs were glass for the entire front fenders and steel rear weld on flares. Later on you could get steel ST flares front and back but just months later the RS/RSR and duck was available and shortly even bigger tails.

Just trying to nail down the details. Anyone have a COA for a early duck?

dd74 03-23-2005 08:47 PM

Several places on this board I've read the original ducktails were made from aluminum. Do a search for "aluminum ducktail;" more information might come up.

Tyson Schmidt 03-23-2005 09:01 PM

The first ductails were glass laid on an aluminum lid. Later ones were on steel.

I think once they were homologated, Porsche just started cranking out '73 RS's that were more like a street going car. No thin sheetmetal or glass, and all the amenities.

rdane 03-24-2005 09:08 AM

Thanks Tyson. That matches with my info as well.

Now anyone have a COA from PCNA that has a early duck listed?

Love to see a scan if so?

kach22i 03-24-2005 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by skinnerd
try this on for size...........

http://www.mbhinc.com/html/duck_tails.html

;)

Dang........$15,000 just doesn't go very far these days:
http://www.mbhinc.com/html/1967_911s_targa.html

I think in Excellence or Panorama (current issues) they have one (67 targa soft rear window) for two of three times that price - but it's not this rough.


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