Need a price comparison for a restored 911.
 

Hi.

All things being equal, what's the value of a well-restored 69T vs. a well-restored 72T? Lets assume that they were both restored by the same person/shop with equal attention to detail, and are both complete.

Thanks,

mto

Well if you have two identical cars except for the years and all things being equal then you would need to look at whethe you prefered a 2.0 or 2.4 motor the earlier Gbox (901) or later (915) and also how many were made of that colour in that year.

Ie personal preference

Michael

Sorry...I should be more clear. This is hypothetical. I'm just looking at the value of a 72 vs a 69.

I would think that they should be similar in value.

Michael

Hmmmmmm..............I must disagree..........69 is always worth more!!!!;)

'72 is the only year for the oil tank in front of the rear wheel...so it's pretty unique! Maybe that makes it worth more?

'69 is the only LWB with flying-buttress door handles, so THAT makes it worth more!

Well the 2.0T motor from the '69 is a dog compared to 2.4 MFI T powerplant. The 2.4 engine has a better upgrade path as well, compared the 2.0 T. Downside is the first year for the 915 tranny which can be a challenge to get main seal right the first time (as me how I know). Of course it depends on the whether either car has the S options and such. My uncle had '69T back in '69 and it made a hugh impression on me. I have/drive a '72.
The oil door on the side is just part of the way kewl factor.
YMMV.

I'd have to go with the '72, because of the bigger engine and unique oil system.

I have owned 2.0, 2.2, and 2.4 liter 911s, as well as the 3.2L that is in my present targa.
I would have to agree that although the 1969 may have some cachet as the first year LWB, the 2.0 L T motor is the least exciting 911 powerplant EVER, and very hard to modify into anything as well.
Unless there is something specific to one of the two cars you are looking at, the 1972 will always be worth a bit more, all other things being equal..;-)

However, the '69 T currently on ebay sure does look like the real deal, doesn't it? "Theoretically speaking" ;)

I haven't looked, actually. Not related to my question though...

Paul,
You mean this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...4541010175&rd=1

Oh Yeah, that car is special, to be sure.

Yep, that one...it's creating a bit of a buzz among the early 911 set. "Only" a T, but ohhh so gorgeous. To get back on this topic? In early cars, value is mostly determined by condition, then the model. Condition is number 1. Then, is the car a T, an E, or an S. S seems to be the top of the heap, and I'm not saying that just because I own one. Then, as a sub category, the 2.4 models seem to be more desirable than the 2.2 or 2.0. But really, it's all about condition, and the desires of the buyer...

I believe that ANY 911- 1973 or earlier - in that level of condition is going to be worth quite a lot in the years ahead.

So, sell now, cry later - that's my motto, and I am hanging onto what I have, like you are, Paul...;-)

FWIW....Bruce Anderson's article in the May 2005 Excellence magazine saya an excellent 69T is worth $14,275 and an excellent 72T is worth $16,625. I believe that answers your question form one perspective. Of cousre that reference is just a guide line and without any real definition of "excellent". I think "well restored" cars command more money as evidenced by the current e-bay auction referenced above.

If you look at that well restored example on E-bay and take the same 16% difference per the Anderson article, a simlar 72 would have a bid of $27,840.00. That sounds like a lot for those of who have purchase Ts for under $5000 in the past. However, that was the past. Nice cars are trading for big $$$ these days and anyone who has ever restored a car will tell you, it is easy to have $30000 in a project and have it far from being as nice as this T.

My advice...buy it.

Don