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efhughes3 04-16-2005 07:07 PM

Who here has installed their engine by themself?
 
I was planning on a "group" install next weekend, but I had a good day today, as I'm down to my last two tasks and my motor will be ready to go back in. I got it off the engine stand today with the ATV jack, and there it sits. It seems to me the "hardest" part will be lifting the tranny up to mate to the motor.

So, I'm tempted to go ahead and slide her under...Maybe it is just a psychological hurdle?

Purkinjefibre 04-16-2005 07:16 PM

Hi Ed, i did mine alone. For me the trickiest part was getting the rear of the car high enough. It was very precarious up so high on stands. It's always a good idea to have someone around...

walt 04-16-2005 07:23 PM

I just installed mine today. Needed a few minutes of help to get the tranny mounted, other than that you should be fine.

rhk109 04-16-2005 07:24 PM

I've done it each of the last two winters by myself. Just take your time and doublecheck everything.

J Smith 04-16-2005 07:27 PM

Putting it back in is definitely easier than taking it out. I've done two drops/installs all by myself. Like the others said, just take your time and check everything as you're raising it up.

Good luck.

jwmc1 04-16-2005 07:37 PM

I did it...used a cherry picker to help slide it in...

azasadny 04-16-2005 07:51 PM

I did it and I used a Sears Craftsman ATV/Motorcycle jack which made it much easier to line everything up and get the engine in place.

efhughes3 04-16-2005 07:54 PM

Thanks guys, we'll see how it goes tomorrow. If I get it in, I'll be a week ahead of schedule!

The motor is sitting on my ATV jack right now. There is no way I'd use a floor jack to pull an engine after dropping mine this way. It really balance the motor well.

yelcab1 04-16-2005 07:55 PM

I have done it myself, but prefer to have at least one more person

89911 04-16-2005 08:18 PM

I've done it a few time, some with two people, others with one. Those that have done it by yourself, where are your friends when you need them? It can be done solo, but the potential for something bad to happen is definitely increased.

rotorhead 04-16-2005 08:23 PM

I have found that putting the rear wheels of the car on car ramps is the safest way to support my car while removing and reinstalling the engine.

I use two jacks, one under the engine and one under the transmission mounts. I made up a trolley to drop the engine onto and jacked it up to under the engine. I then alternately lowered the ends of the engine/ transmission and pulled it clear before lowering it onto the trolley.

Installing was the reverse procedure.

ricochet 04-16-2005 08:47 PM

I did the install on VW motors quite often (way back then). Seems my wife (still) was my best helper. We changed them out every time I blew one (pretty often, maybe every every 6 months)).
I was green, not a mechanic and no book to go by.

While observing safety first, the rest should be do-able. Read and take your time. Just don't shortcut the safety stuff.

Fishcop 04-16-2005 09:12 PM

I did it all myself using one large jack and a smaller one for support.... I found it very therapeutic :D But then again, according to my wife, I don't play well with others in my garage :rolleyes:

Chuck Moreland 04-16-2005 10:19 PM

Friends are overated. If the trans and motor are already mated, this is easily done solo. If it's just the engine, you need a second pair of hands for about 3 minutes when you slip the clucth fork on while pushing the engine forward.

RoninLB 04-17-2005 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 89911
It can be done solo, but the potential for something bad to happen is definitely increased.
my solo act always uses Two 10ft lengths of 3/8in low stretch rope/ important. One line goes up thru each engine rear cross bar mount hole into the tub motor mount hole. The bottom is knotted so it doesn't pull thru. The top is slightly tight knotted and readjusted as it's raised. It ain't going anywhere.

Jared at Pelican Parts 04-17-2005 04:09 AM

Ive done it by myself using two floor jacks. it isnt too hard..

the key is balancing it right with a board.

Install425 04-17-2005 05:35 AM

Just get a helper to take a picture.


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ChrisBennet 04-17-2005 05:47 AM

It's not hard to do solo but its helpful to get the wifey to be your eyes on the inside of the car to tell you when the shift rod is lines up with the hole. That can save you going back and forth a few times.

Like Jared said, the key is having the engine well balanced. You want to be able to rock the motor back in order to "aim" the shift rod into the hole.

-Chris

wowzer911 04-17-2005 07:55 AM

I pulled it out, placed on engine stand, removed from engine stand, and re-installed it all alone. I used an atv/motorcucle jack, misc. blocking and alot of patience. Engine ant tranny balance quite nicely. Jacked car up nice and high w/ rear bumper removed. I was quite pleased w/ myself!

Bietendorf 04-17-2005 08:32 AM

The most difficult part is linning up the throw out fork on the the throw out bearing. make sure the for is turned about 45 degrees out so it can line into the beaing grooves. I also use an ATV jack and a second jack to help tilt things as needed to align properly. Also, I listen to Jazz music and down a beer while I do this to keep me calm and pace myself. No heavy metal.

sammyg2 04-17-2005 08:40 AM

Twice, and I left the tranny in place and just pulled the engine.
Besides, I don't have any friends ;)

lonewolf 04-17-2005 02:27 PM

ive pulled my engine tranny combo in and out so many times i can,t count . (been doing it 25 years) normal floor jack . once out rest engine on some blocks . put blocks under the camtowers. then you can unbolt tranny and slide out . to put tranny back in i just pick it up and make sure fork is aligned and slide in . don,t expect difficulty , it,s not there.

Shaun @ Tru6 04-17-2005 02:58 PM

Install is easy with one person, you just roll'em up and in, right? The real trick is getting it all wired back up. I had a heck of a time getting this to run right after the install... and shifting, well that's another story.

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Diesel_mp5 04-17-2005 04:42 PM

Umm... yha
 
Hey that would be the best running Crysler ever...lol

724doorE 04-17-2005 06:24 PM

Just like monster gargae where they made an air boat out of the beetle.

Walko 04-17-2005 06:36 PM

I have nover done a motor only but have done the motor and box together a few times.

Once I have the motor and box under the car I lower the car nearly to the floor and then proceed to lift the motor.

Michael

Westy 04-18-2005 10:11 AM

Never done it, but I'm about to. On top of that, my wife volunteered her weekend to help me in what ever I need. I've read 101 Projects about three times now. I've got my list, just ordered the parts from Pelican, scrounging another from Parts Heaven, have jack stands and ramps, a floor jack, my ATV jack, and in a week or two we're going in.

Besides, after I screw it up, Renn Tech is only a 30 dollar tow away.

MichiganMat 04-18-2005 10:30 AM

I takes me about 4 hours to drop my engine and trans by myself. That includes jacking up the car, draining the fluids, pulling the CVs, etc. These cars are super easy to work on :)

Westy 04-18-2005 10:32 AM

Let's see,,,it takes you four hours,,,hmmmm, times three, plus Miller Light breaks,,,,,,OK - That means if I start at 0800 hours, then I should have it out before sunset. Things are looking better already!!!!

MichiganMat 04-18-2005 10:39 AM

Just don't forget to detach the fuel lines (send and return) and oil breather lines in the engine compartment. I tore both breather hoses on a drop a few months back.

Westy 04-18-2005 10:41 AM

Yeah, that's on my list. Thanx

coldstart 04-20-2005 02:39 PM

So Westy, you're not selling the car?

sammyg2 04-20-2005 04:01 PM

Is the engine already out? Just make sure you don't try to re-install it until you get and post the manditory picture of you standing in the engine compartment.
Sorry, I don't make the rules but You gotta do it. ;)

randywebb 04-20-2005 05:13 PM

mandatory picture of you standing in the engine compartment.

- Contest over - Fishcop ground down all the competition.

Westy 04-20-2005 07:14 PM

Cold Start, nope. No longer for sale. Ther Moneypit and I are at odds right now,,,and I will win. Besides, I can't dump 3k into a car that's had 20 k put into it, then sell it and net 9k. It makes me dizzy.

Sammy, what's the big deal? Randy is right. Fishcop wins the contest for the next 100 years. He!!,,,he scared me when I saw that picture.

Regardless, the motor is out. Motor and tranny 5 1/2 hours over two days, seven Miller Lights, two peppermint Scnaaps, a half dozen or so feel and walk arounds to make sure all was well, two phone calls, and absolutely no broken lines, bolts or other parts. Did it alone, too. I'm feelin' kind of proud of myself!!!!

Diesel_mp5 04-21-2005 04:33 PM

Good job. Welcome to the club.... now lets see yha get it back in....lol oh and send that pic.


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