Scam on the sale of my 993???

Bags · 05-31-2005, 02:01 PM

Well, this seems to good to be true, so it probably is. I remember others who went down this road so...... Here it is. My 993 is posted on several sites. I got a e-mail from Mark at www.cars-on-commission.com

He said they had a client interested in the car, send info, pictures etc..

I just got a response from him that sounds fishy. I have not responded. What do all you experts think???

My client was much impressed and he hopes that the property is serviced and well kept too.However,my client made out a cashier's check of($57,000)before he travelled to Japan on a business trip,for a previous property and its shipment charges etc,but it was unfortunately sold.The amount on the check he deposited for the property is bigger than what should be paid to you now,so the check is now meant for the total expenses which includes the purchase of your property,the pick up of the property from its present location and the shipping charges/other necessary shipping arrangements.However he has instructed us to carry on with this transaction. So you're required to deduct the cost of your property ($50,000)and send the balance of ($7,000) to my client's agents via MoneyGram transfer to enable them offsett shippingcharges/arrangements.once the transaction is concluded.My client's agents will be coming for the pick up of the property from its present location,on an open vehicle and then drive to a pre paid shipper for shipment while title papers and other necessary documets will be handed to the agents at the time of pick up.
ATTENTION:
MY CLIENT INSTRUCTED THAT THE PICKUP AGENTS WILL BE COMING OVER TO YOUR AREA OF LOCATION WITH SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO CHECK THE RECENT CONDITIONS OF THE PROPERTY ON HIS BEHALF.THAT YOU ARE TO HELP THEM WHEN THEY ARRIVE....
Please Confirm this and provide name,address and phone number for check payment to be delivered to you via courier mail.

Mike

midlife · 05-31-2005, 02:04 PM

SCAM.

kayalove · 05-31-2005, 02:04 PM

Very common scam that is well documented here:

http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html

niner11 · 05-31-2005, 02:06 PM

I bought my last two cars that way. Sounds legit to me.

laddsc · 05-31-2005, 02:07 PM

SCAM!!! Money orders are the hot item right now for scamming. Run away.

Joe Bob · Joe Bob's Garage

Run away....cash works.

biosurfer1 · 05-31-2005, 02:11 PM

a sure fire way to tell if its a scam is to ask the "buyer" any question that any regular buyer would have no objections to, i.e. "would you be willing to go to the bank with me", "i will have the bank check the authenticity of the check before i relase the car, is there any problem with that?"...the easiest way to find if someone is ligit on ebay is to say that you have a friend nearby and would like him to pick up the goods in exchange for the money(even if its not true), 99 out of 100 times, if they say they are too busy or dont want to meet, its a scam...most scams are easy to spot because there is usually something very evident that sticks out like a sore thumb that doesnt sound right or is too good to be true, using common sense is the best way to avoid them

Bags · 05-31-2005, 02:18 PM

Niner 11
Are you serious?? Did you buy throught this group?? Give me some details.. Please!
Mike

HardDrive · 05-31-2005, 02:27 PM

TOTAL SCAM!!!!!

Not to be a jerk........but.....DUH!

Come on man, use the nugget. In todays world, is it really such a big deal to overnight a money order for the correct amount? No.

CLASSIC scam.

mwbaum · mwbaum's Garage

Its a scam. Require cash, or a Fed Funds wire. imo.

niner11 · 05-31-2005, 02:31 PM

Mike, this is one of the more obvious scams, sorry

Bags · 05-31-2005, 02:33 PM

OK, OK, I knew it but.....well......I just had to ask. Don't spank me to hard for this one.....
Mike

Carl83911 · 05-31-2005, 02:47 PM

Let's see here,

They're the ones willing to send you the money. you only have to refund them the difference. They're also sending people to inspect the car.

It seems a fair enough deal. only if you get the money first. I would see it as a scam if you were the one sending money out without receiving the property.

Is this price you asking for the 993 ($50k)?

Eric Coffey · 03:17 PM

Yes, obvious scam. You should have a little fun with the A-hole though.

For instance:
Agree to his terms, but email him saying your bank needs $100 in advance to release the title and to cover the cashier's check / bank wire for the $7000. Then tell him that as soon as you receive the $100, you will remit the balance immediately and await his contact to arrange pick up for the car. Who knows, he might just agree (fall for it), thinking he has duped you and is going to get his $7k. It's worth a try, as nothing beats scamming a scammer!

Even if he doesn't agree to that, I would still give him the OK, but request that the check be sent via overnight delivery. Then at the very least he will be out the cost of overnight delivery, and you will have a "trophy" check to tell a story about (and/or to forward to the authorities, as futile as that might be).

Eric Coffey · 05-31-2005, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carl83911
Let's see here,

They're the ones willing to send you the money. you only have to refund them the difference. They're also sending people to inspect the car.

It seems a fair enough deal. only if you get the money first. I would see it as a scam if you were the one sending money out without receiving the property.

Carl,

This is a classic scam. They (scammers) will send a fake cashier's check out. Their hope is that you deposit it then send the "difference" to them BEFORE your bank comes back to notify you that it was a fraudulent check (which could take up to a week or more). There are no "people to come inspect the car" or "transport agents". If it gets to that point, and you have sent them their "difference", they are long gone. The good thing is that most banks have become wise to this common scam, and the tellers usually spot the fake checks immediately, before you deposit them.

The first question you should ask yourself (and the scammer) is: Why don't they just cancel the original money order, and have one drawn up for the correct amount?

Carl83911 · 05-31-2005, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eric Coffey
Carl,

This is a classic scam. They (scammers) will send a fake cashier's check out. Their hope is that you deposit it then send the "difference" to them BEFORE your bank comes back to notify you that it was a fraudulent check (which could take up to a week or more). There are no "people to come inspect the car" or "transport agents". If it gets to that point, and you have sent them their "difference", they are long gone. The good thing is that most banks have become wise to this common scam, and the tellers usually spot the fake checks immediately, before you deposit them.

The first question you should ask yourself (and the scammer) is: Why don't they just cancel the original money order, and have one drawn up for the correct amount?

____

True,

If I were to do this deal, I would make sure to confirm with the Bank that the Cashier's check or Money order is real. I would wait for it to clear before delivering the car. Unless the people they're sending to inspect the vehicle are goons.

john walker's workshop · 05-31-2005, 03:34 PM

i can't believe there's anyone out there who hasn't heard of this scam yet. it's been years. you need to get out of the house more.

RSupdate · RSupdate's Garage

This a variation of the basic Nigerian 419 scam.

Just type in "Nigerian 419 scam" in your browser and grab a cold one....

Carl83911 · 05-31-2005, 03:40 PM

I pay cash and only cash on all my transactions. And No, I've never ran across this type of scam. But, I always have my guard up in any transaction that requires long distance correspondence and 3rd party associations.

And yes, I get out of the house a lot. Actually, I need to stay home more.

BlkBird · 05-31-2005, 03:55 PM

My favourite was a Ferrari 360 for sale in Greece. Guy only wanted $18,000 US for it on Ebay. Get the feeling he is looking for the people who think they have an easy sucker? As in "Hey, the guy dropped a zero in his currency conversion! I'll buy this car for 18 Grand and hold him to the deal."

Except I'll bet they never see the car. If there really is even a car to be seen!