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Tomy 06-06-2005 03:33 AM

So here we have pictures from Friday-Saturday work


Front panel :from my investigation --I have taken front bumper out first time, so good no sign of any damages (collision), even no rust (only surface rust but it is no problem)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118053358.jpg

left fender out
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118053597.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118053668.jpg

rear quarters left and right


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118053712.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118053759.jpg
see bag repairs in the past

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118053832.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118053890.jpg

silverc4s 06-06-2005 07:14 AM

The rust areas on the rear quarter panels are typical of these early targas, yours actually looks like a mild case from what I can see here...;-)

Tomy 06-07-2005 01:09 AM

Yes Bill it looks like but only outer skin, all inner panels (even inner rocker) are sound - and this is good.
I was surprised months ego when I first time drive my Targa that it is no more flexible than my last coupe, especially when I expected just opposite situation as describe in many places in our BBS. I was user surprise when I found that.
Today I thin that probably my coupe (inner panels-as construction) was eaten ny rost and was more flexible. Especially than when you have right paint car and not use in rain or snow it can eat panels under step by step before you will see it outside.
I so happy that my 911S Targa comes with eaten wings as I decide to proper operation - means total rebuilding.
Today I see that only this way is right. We should find right model of the car, with good engine, trany, and outside rust, if inner panels are OK you have a lot of work but it is the best idea - you know what you have.
Of cure it cost time and money but result ...I hope will be as new car.
As I write i give myself deadline for body work and painting 15.07.
So within days I will finish striping and start to reassembling new panels and cure Small bad things as well. Meantime some photos from yesterday work

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118131215.jpg
outer rocker open : see oil cooler cables in place, inner rocker seems to be perfect
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118131375.jpg
battery boxes both side -perfect no rust http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118131437.jpg
outer rocker out :see bad repair -somebody rivet some path instead of weld all new rocker
Today I should finis ed striping bad places! Let see what I find!

ianc 06-07-2005 10:27 AM

Tomy, you're going great guns on that thing, and I bet it's going to look great. Are you located in Poland?

ianc

}{arlequin 06-07-2005 11:40 AM

Tomy,
W jakim miescie jestes?

silverc4s 06-07-2005 12:25 PM

Tomy,
You might want to find some old steel wheels to put on the car before you start the actual bodywork. Those Fuchs don't grow on trees these days.
Plus you can get to work on polishing them in the evenings after dinner...;-)

Tomy 06-08-2005 12:57 AM

PM to Dave
 
Dave you have PM from me

Tomy 06-08-2005 12:59 AM

Ianc yes I am from Poland

Tomy 06-08-2005 01:15 AM

08.06.05
 
So hello to everybody.
Yesterday I take out right rocker as well as take off oil cooler as I need to replace some small parts of panels around and it is good opportunity to clean oil cooler.
Next parts ordered:
-2 door screw (as we damage 2 during striping)
-front fender rubber pipe (this short piece of rubber) to tank as broken partly
-all new hardware to fenders
-tape between fender and inner panels
Till Sunday I would like to finish right side of the car means all small repairs and put new panels :rocker,fender support, door lock post, and of course repair back right wings as I cut off part of it.
From Monday I would start left side.Till now I am in time.
So work is follow on and hope that I will see progress shortly.
Now is the time (still) that I strip cut of and take out panels, and old patches
looks like my 911 is going to be like cheese but ok it is right step You will see how it will look at the end -hope shortly.

Tomy 06-08-2005 01:05 PM

08.06.05 afternoon
 
So some progress today first patches made! First one is on inner part of wheel arch this typical place as during years day by day this area is at act with water, mud, snow, stones and PVC and any coat layers are damage.
See three pictures:
Before : looks like no holes but....
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118260029.jpg



Panel cutting out

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118260570.jpg


After: my first patch!!! So I rescue inner wheel arch in right way.
As well as door support (in lower part I had have rust and holes so second patch here!)http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118260801.jpg


So will see tomorrow next step....

86 911 06-08-2005 03:22 PM

Tommy,
Ja mowie po polsku tez, ale nie tak dobrze. Pan ma bardzo ladny samochod!! Moj rodzina mieszka w Warszawie. Gdzie ty mieszkac?

Tomy 06-10-2005 03:07 PM

10.06.05
 
First, I have post replay with pictures 3-4 hours ago and it disappeared?!
So I do it again.
Yesterday I work still with my right side of the rockers and now have some progress. It was part of the panel near oil lines to cutoff and rebuild
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118440584.jpg



and today looks :
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118441023.jpg

I decide to repair front fender as new panels cost here 1.200$ and it looks bad but could be repair correctly - expected time whole one day of work with right fender.
The same will be with left one. So I loose 2-3 days but will have some free bugs for next steps of my resto.
I will upload more pictures tomorrow

}{arlequin 06-10-2005 03:25 PM

this is an excellent restoration. You're working so fast I'm wondering how quickly you will finish :D

luvndasun 06-11-2005 11:23 AM

Nice work, you are really taking care of business! What tools are you using to cut and bend your patches? What gauge steel are you using for your patches?

86 911 06-11-2005 06:59 PM

Great work! Where do you order your parts from in Poland?

Tomy 06-13-2005 12:49 AM

10.06.05
 
First about parts: I buying parts via Porsche dealer here and sometimes in US as in US is sometimes cheaper (why? I don't know we have here only mils to Porsche Factory...)
About tools I use typical tools as well. Of course for body panels I use some tools made by me. (see I have nothing to do with automotive business and my education is computer science , Porsche restoration is my hobby)
See front wings work from Friday workday. Somebody again use riveting as panels rebuild : it looks that he probably haven't have welding machine, I am under surprise as it takes time and effects are bad with times go.
See what I find:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118648654.jpg

And how it looks when I take it off:
:confused:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118648777.jpg

So my friends : never use riveting or If you must pls make correct undercoating from second side as within year or two you have twice much rust as before!
Let see what will be today.....

Tomy 06-14-2005 03:00 AM

14.06.05
 
Time to close left rocker, see how it look before welding,
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118743089.jpg

Here we have door lockpost panel right side, today will be closed.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118742958.jpg

Time is going on hope to finished right side till end of this week?!
My notes shows that I start 16 days ago...

Tomy 06-15-2005 05:03 AM

15.06.05 morning
 
So I work with right side still. Today I try to rebuild rear right wing see process
Ten days ago it looks like :
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118836335.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118836405.jpg

As you remember I cut off part of the wing:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118836520.jpg

And build new part as you see...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118836606.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118836682.jpg
some drawings during thinking...how to build patch
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1118836760.jpg
I will definitely finished right side till Saturday night.

86 911 06-15-2005 11:56 AM

You are making great progress on your car. I can't wait to see the right wing of it when it is complete.

Tomy 06-17-2005 12:11 PM

17.06.05
 
Yesterday I try to finished right front wing and door too, see how it looks before and now:

during stripinghttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1119035080.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1119035146.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1119035205.jpg

and after some work...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1119035287.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1119035376.jpg

so hope to finish right side tomorrow...


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