Ultimate 'Sleeper' thread

[svonkampen]

Hey Shuie.......

I know why deep, down you have an affinity for sleeper's.....It's your heritage man!

Baton Rouge.......moonshine runners ;-)

tell me I'm wrong ;-)

SvK

[Zeke]

Originally posted by patkeefe
Anything with a tail on it is definitely NOT a sleeper.

Onthe other hand......I've seen a few with tails that are a sheep in the wolf's clothing. Like this complete Turbo look....are you ready?...........912 that a SoCal dentist owned.

[Rob Channell]

Zeke,
I've seen a few like that as well. The PO of my SC had a 930 tail on the car that had the turbo script on it. I got rid of it. Instead of sleepers, we call 'em posers. Heck, if I was gonna leave a turbo emblem on my car when it didn't really have one I might as well add a type R sticker, too.

[air-cool-me]

what about an "Just an SC with an early turbo tail"



(one on the right.... BAE power baby!)

[patkeefe]

Nick's car is pretty close to a sleeper, I think. When the Project X inviso-intercooler is ready...

As soon as people see a tail, they think it should be fast

[Jim Garfield]

Originally posted by patkeefe
Anything with a tail on it is definitely NOT a sleeper.

Or a slant nose, as the possibility of it being a special wishes street 935 is always in the back of your mind.

I think that Curt E's 2.5 Targa is a good example of a sleeper. Looks like a nice early stock car, but goes like hell.... from personal experience, I can assure you that it goes like hell.

[jfw834]

Originally posted by Zeke
Onthe other hand......I've seen a few with tails that are a sheep in the wolf's clothing. Like this complete Turbo look....are you ready?...........912 that a SoCal dentist owned.

those are called "liars"

[Bobboloo]

Maybe you should define sleeper since some people here obviously don't understand the meaning. So far the only sleepers I've seen are in your original post.

Here's one. 72T with a twinplug 2.8 S cam motor. Built originally by Grady about 25 years ago. The owner Greg just finished installing S MFI induction. When Grady originally did the motor he used Webers.

[mjshira]

ok, so if a 911 has fuchs it is not a sleeper?

[Shuie]

k9handlers and rs911ts cars definitely should have been in my original post. Those are perfect examples of what I was typing about.

After careful consideration of all of the features that can be seen in the pic, I declare that the above gaurds red 935 bodied slantnose turbo convertible with the whale tail and RUF wheels is
not quite a sleeper

Originally posted by svonkampen


Baton Rouge.......moonshine runners ;-)

tell me I'm wrong ;-)

Thats funny. My family really is from Bourbon country. While they never ran shine, they have been involved in the legitimate end of the whiskey business for a very long time.

Craigs SC is an incredible buy at the asking price. I bet its going to scare the **** out of the next owner. I guess those two things kinda make it a sleeper. Very cool car.

[Bobboloo]

IMHO any performance upgrade on the exterior is not a sleeper. I guess you could consider stock Fuchs sleeper but to me when you put 16" Fuchs or wider 7x15" Fuchs your busted.

[Shuie]

Fuchs are fine, IMHO. Nothing says sleeper like a deep 6 thats been widened to 7"+ and shoved under the back of a narrow car in effort the put as much tire to ground as possible in a car with a big engine.

[Bobboloo]

"Fuchs are fine, IMHO. Nothing says sleeper like a deep 6 thats been widened to 7"+ and shoved under tha back of a narrow car in effort the put as much tire to ground as possible in a car with a big engine."


Agreed.

[Halm]

Originally posted by mjshira
ok, so if a 911 has fuchs it is not a sleeper?

Hi James! Definitely not so. IMHO, a “sleeper” is a car that looks stock but has real muscle under the skin. The motor is the obvious place to start, but the suspension and brakes must be upgraded accordingly. The exterior needs to be pretty plain.

The wheels are, however, a problem when creating a sleeper. I am thinking a set of Fuch’s in the rear that are modified 7R style can help put more rubber on the road than the usual 6&7’s without being too obvious. What do you think?

[mjshira]

yeah I guess you are right Hal but I still think a non-flared car is pretty damn close to a sleeper.

[Halm]

Originally posted by mjshira
yeah I guess you are right Hal but I still think a non-flared car is pretty damn close to a sleeper.

Absolutely a narrow car is more of a sleeper than a SC or later. My 'otherwise stock '70 Targa with a 2.7 RS style motor is a good example. It just needs some 7R wheels in the rear!

But a SC could be pretty good sleeper too. If you stayed with a neutal color, like white, no tail at all, "badge delete", early Fuch anodized wheels, not too low, and 3.2 short stroke (or 3.6) I bet you could surprise a lot of rice'ers.

[rdane]

Originally posted by air-cool-me
what about....

Sheeeeesh and I was thinking the blue one was a sleeper?!

Anything (even an SC) with a 4" tail pipe aint no sleeper.

How can you not think rubber duck isn't a sleeper?

[dd74]

Missing the door mirror is a dead giveaway, Dane.

[pwd72s]

Originally posted by Zeke
Onthe other hand......I've seen a few with tails that are a sheep in the wolf's clothing. Like this complete Turbo look....are you ready?...........912 that a SoCal dentist owned.

Milt, are you talking about Carol Doda cars?

[air-cool-me]

Anything (even an SC) with a 4" tail pipe aint no sleeper.

3inch! 3 INCH! Sheeeeesh!