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randywebb 06-27-2005 08:57 PM

No, that is not what custody means. I know you don't like it (and I don't either re speed enforcement) but they will nail the owner. If you doubt what I'm saying try fighting one with your legal theory.

MotoSook 06-27-2005 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by TerryH
- the ticket above reads that "the registered owner is liable for payment...... unless the vehicle was not in the custody of the owner at the time of the infraction."

So the driver is responsible, not necessarily the registered owner. Someone has to place the owner behind the wheel for him to be liable.

I bet the law requires that the owner provide an affidavit that he was not the driver, and that the driver be named in the affidavit. Otherwise the owner is responsible. Similar requirements apply to such things in Illinois.

strother 06-28-2005 04:15 AM

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Originally posted by TerryH
If those are the only 3 views of the vehicle, I don't understand how they can ticket you. Anyone could be driving. When a ticket is written, it is handed to the driver - against the driver, not attached to the vehicle. Maybe that's why they say "no points against you".

Cameras in the LA area photograph the driver in addition to the vehicle.

They're bringing the cameras to Houston, and the city is going to issue civil fines against the owner of the vehicle. They are not going to issue "tickets," which are quasi-criminal citations. No need to know who is driving.

strother 06-28-2005 04:19 AM

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Originally posted by Souk
I bet the law requires that the owner provide an affidavit that he was not the driver, and that the driver be named in the affidavit. Otherwise the owner is responsible. Similar requirements apply to such things in Illinois.
There is a difference between not being in custody and not being the driver. You can be in custody of the vehicle even though you loaned it to your neighbor. If the vehicle was sold or stolen, or if it is at the repair shop, you're not in custody.

Just guessing at this, BTW...

Par911 07-13-2005 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by Souk
I bet the law requires that the owner provide an affidavit that he was not the driver, and that the driver be named in the affidavit. Otherwise the owner is responsible. Similar requirements apply to such things in Illinois.
Right you are Souk.
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MotoSook 07-13-2005 07:19 PM

Did you doubt the master :) ;)


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