This is not hype:

198 mph demonstrated top speed.
1.04G skidpad.
11.7 seconds and 125 mph in the quarter.
Seven minutes 43 seconds around the Nordschleife, a production-car lap time exceeded only by the Carrera GT--not by any production Ferrari, any Viper, any Ford GT, any 911.
$65,000 (plus dealer markup, regrettably, but it's still Chevy's achievement).
400+ ft.-lbs. torque ( of a max 470) available from 2,400 to 6,400 rpm.
7,000 rpm redline--the fastest turning smallblock ever (yes, it's a Mousemotor, not a Rat even though it's a 427).
Curb weight 3,132 pounds.

Stephan

I asked my favorite ex-SS-multi-National-Champ if he was buying one. Nope, says he.....something about being past the point of buying the latest thing. I tole him he was getting old....tho he's about 6mos younger than me. :D

Don't really matter, he still kicks ass in his "old" ought 6.
...localy at least.

Steve -

I know there are 'rules' for disclosure of info prior to a certain magazine release date --- but do you have any pictures or any other subjective info you can give?

Wicked. Sounds awesome. Let's all go buy one, then turn this into a Corvette board! :rolleyes:

ianc

Porsche is never going to build a affordible supercar . TheZ06 is really cool though but if64k+++ is the paramiter Id take 64k and build a911 turbo car and give Craig11 a run for pinks!

........funny, I *just* finished watching the show 'PINKS'....

For about 50k total (current plus mods) I'll have 505 hp at the wheels. On an all new 930 (actually, 28 hrs)
Pink time. ;-)
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Above all, one must realize that the new Z06 is indisputably an incredible car. One of the world's best. Objectively so.
Buuuut.....

ianc--Gee, you're readin' it.

Craig--those numbers are the core subjective information, and no, there aren't any limitations at this point regarding what I can tell you, and the buff books are out our about to be out with their road tests anyway.

Pictures: It looks exactly like a C6 except for a very small air inlet at the front of the hood, brake-air-out ducts behind the front wheels and air-in scoops just aft of the doors. And a ZO6 badge on each front fender. Otherwise, you'd never know the difference.
the real difference is under the skin. They had a "naked" ZO6 at the press intro, and it was pretty amazing. Nearly every single piece of the car's structure, engine, driveline and suspension was either aluminum or magnesium. the only steel I could find was the exhaust system, rear axles, sway bars, a very small lateral tubular member that goes under the dash and a few nuts and bolts. Even every bracket on the engine is aluminum.

The engine is a C6R engine with an emissions-legal exhaust system. Not "like a C6R engine," it is a C6R engine. Titanium rods, CNC-milled ports, etc.

Stephan

Steve your wasting your breath on some of these guys. Most of us hear you but a few of these guys hear what they need to hear, I guess.

You say "this car is an awesome bang for the buck car." "This car has these phenomenal stats and is the real deal" and some of the guys hear, "It is better than your 911". As though no car can have great stats without it being some kind of insult, some black mark to Porsche owners!

I get what you're saying entirely, and I agree. The way I feel is we're all "car guys" that OUGHT to mean we appreciate ALL cars for what they are. Doesn't (and shouldn't) mean we want to OWN every kind of car.

Honda, Toyota, GM andothers all make some excellent cars FOR THEIR INTENDED PURPOSE....which is mostly NOT the same purpose as a Porsche 911. I'm not threatened when other make good cars, I am encouraged by it.

These guys that have to call other cars disparaging names and tell you we should "all buy them and make this into a Corvette board" are essentially telling you to shut up. Most of us are NOT. I say thanks for bringing it up. Idon't think you had the slightest intention of "converting the zealots", I think you were just enthused like a real car guy should be. I'll get flamed for this, oh well, tough!

I agree. The 'vette keeps getting closer & closer to the 911 - or, in some respects, better.

The use of alloys reminds me of the way the 911 used to be made...
BTW the vette has a Ti exhaust system...

I'm not telling anyone to shut up. I'm sure the new Z06 is a fabulous car in every way, it just doesn't really interest me because it's missing all those qualities that make Porsches so intriguing to me.

The obvious answer would be just to take myself away and not visit this thread anymore, which I believe I'll do. So continue, with my best wishes, to discuss among yourselves,

ianc

Randy, I'm not sure what part of the exhaust is titanium, but there's a whole lot of 3"-diameter tubing, real sewer pipes, from the cats right below the headers down the center tunnel leading to huge mufflers back aft--with flapper valves that straight-pipe 'em at 3.500 rpm. Is it all titanium?

Stephan

I agree. We wouldn't be reading nearly as much chest-thumping B.S. if this thread were about the Lotus Elise...

"Is it all titanium?"

I don't know. I happened to see that all or part of it was Ti when perusing some info for a company involved in Ti refining.

FWIW, MB has some sort of new muffler packing technology that helps it make their mufflers lighter wt. ....

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On the broader issue - it is perfectly valid to compare our brand with others.

I dont like Corvettes. <y reason is due to the fact that the SCCA caters to them. Someone mentioned the Elise. As soon as it came out I thought Vette killer in SS in the SCCA AX. Then the SCCA made sure the vettes would not have to deal with it. First, by not classing it right away. Then by putting it into a non-stock class. Will the SCCA do the same with the Z-06? Probably not, as long as Vettes are winning everyone is happy, it does not matter what the SCCA has to do to the rules to accomplish this.

My Dad owned a 2001 C-5 Vert. After watching me mop of his Corvette Club friends at an Autocross he decided he wanted a 1993+ RX-7. After he bought one the Vette sat int he garage and never moved. His reason? The vette was not as much fun to drive. He ended up selling the vette and keeping the RX-7.

I am sure a lot of you Porsche guys can understand there is more to a car than raw numbers. A car has character and it makes you feel like your part of it attached to the road sort of.

I have always said a Corvette will make a bad driver look good and a good driver look like a god.

Steve Wilkinson - You seem to work for GM or something and congrats on one amazing car. It has some awesome numbers and impressive stats. I do not mean to crap on your parade I just dislike this car greatly due to the way I have been jerked by the SCCA to make sure they win.

Funny the SCCA made sure the Lotus Elise is not classe din SS against the Vette. It seems that little 190 HP car might win and that is a no no in Super Stock only the Corvette can win.

Lets see where they put the Z-06. If it ends up in SS I can safely say something stinks in the SCCA.

Jim, you have a major hate on the Corvette, which you've voiced twice rather strongly in this thread, and it seems to have something to do with your being beat by them in autocrosses because, as you saw it, the rules were sandbasgged in their direction. Which has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not the car is any good and everything to do with whether or not you resent the car.

No, I don't work for GM. I'm a car writer. I write for Car and Driver, Conde Nast Traveler, Popular Science, Golf Connoisseur, forbesautos.com, BestLife and other publications, and I drive every upscale car made. So I can tell you, not from simply "getting to toss one around at an autocross" now and then that the ZO6 is world class.

Stephan

Because each successive generation of a car usually is much better than the previous.

I always appreciate and read what Stephan writes. Thanks Stephen. I'm not into vette's either but from a gear head standpoint - I like what I see in the new Z06

Well, yes.....Yates called the new Chevette a *****box a few years back......I've adopted the term for multiple uses. :D

The GT3s aren't doing all that well at autocross against the 06. An occasional trophy when the competition is there. Last I looked, none had won a National Tour event in SS....or ASP or SM2....all the homes of the Z06. I'm sure someone will correct that if it's currently incorrect. Maybe they should be moved down to AS with the Honda S2000 & C-4s, eh?

I'm not a big Vette fan. They're too big for my taste.....but I recognize competence when I see it.

While Porsche moves backwards with the 996 serise of engines, Corvette moves forward with the ancient technology ( plus a few cubes).....development over design.

And you know, you have him the passenger seat of your p-car for a AX run and the advice he gives is spot on.....