Early 911 Rear Seat Retaining Strap

[911T1969]

My 1969 911 is missing the rear leather seat straps that keep the seats upright. I bought two replacements, but can anyone tell me how they were originally installed? I know they go under the carpet on the back of the seats. How are they held in place? It would seem brads would eventually pull loose. I have the snaps already in place on the back shelf. Are there snaps on the back of the seats to stow the straps when the seats are down? Maybe a picture anyone? Thanks!!

[ficke]

My 67's were held on with two nails and glue, the strap went between the carpet and the seat back.

[jstobo]

They screw into the back of the rear seat with a finishing washer. The strap is under the carpet but the screw goes from the outside of the carpet. I used black trim screws and you can hardly see them against the charcoal carpet. They should fit pretty tight when you snap them to the back trim piece.

[911T1969]

Ok, I pulled the carpet back to expose the wood and found two small holes. I guess these are where the screws went. The carpet is new red German weave with no holes. I plan on glueing the strap in place under the carpet and using a chrome screw and finishing washer through the carpet and strap in the top hole. My Question: Is there a snap/screw in the lower hole on the back of the seat, so when the seats are down, the strap can be snapped down and stowed? -or- Is another finishing washer/screw used in the lower hole and the strap just flops around when not in use? I want to keep this as authentic as possible. Thanks!

[911T1969]

Bump

[jstobo]

I left mine loose. But you could use a snap, the type with a scew in the middle intead of the finishing screw. I don't remember if originally they had a snap. I do not think so but I could be wrong. I am sure they did not have a screw and snap because when I took the old carpet off i only had to remove one screw. Just can't remember if it was a snap screw or not. It's hell getting old.

[lateapex911]

I just checked mine and it does snap to the seat when it is folded in the down position.

Want a picture?

[911T1969]

Jake, a picture would be great! Thanks

[bkreigsr]

you can sort-of see it on my passenger side, the drivers side is there but its hard to see details '73

[911T1969]

Thanks. If you lift up the strap. Is there a finishing washer and screw showing at the top of the seat back where the strap goes under the carpet?

[bkreigsr]

No, if you lift up the strap, all you see is carpet, strap is tucked between back side of seat & carpeting, I would have guessed it was sewn at the factory, not screwed, but then it would have pulled out about 30 years ago. One of the reasons I never replaced. Seat backs are cheap as dirt at swaps, probably because they all lack an intact strap. good luck

[911T1969]

Thanks. I think I'll go with glueing the strap, tacking with brads, then using a washer and screw at the top of the strap, all under the carpet. After reinstalling the carpet, I'll screw a snap in place a few inches down on top edge of the carpet. Thanks for all the responses. If any one wonders, I got replacement straps at Autos International. http://www.autosintl.com/ $18 a pair. I didn't find any a Pelicanparts.

[lateapex911]

Craig...give me half an hour, and i will post all the pictures you need.

[jstobo]

Pelican has the straps but they are listed in the 74 up model years section of their catalog. I found them by using the search function.