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Targa stiffness

Hi,

What to install first? Targa body brace or front strut tie bar? Can't do both at once at the moment.

Thanks!

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Old 10-14-2005, 10:32 PM
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Darn, posted to wrong forum! how to move??

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Explain what you mean by "body brace".
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Explain what you mean by "body brace".
Hope this helps...
http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/shopcart/911M/POR_911M_SUSshk_pg7.htm#item31

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The word "on the street" is that doesn't do anything. I have a bolt-in autopower roll bar in my '78. I find the car to be very stiff, even with the top off.
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Triangulated strut brace. Serious, immediate changes. You won't need anything else.
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I have also heard that the braces do nothing.
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I own a Targa and have no problem with stiffness.
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I own a Targa and have no problem with stiffness.
That's not what your girl said.

Question: has anyone tried to intergrate a better roll bar into/under the stock roll bar for added body stiffness?



Was the Shelby roll-bar a functional one?


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Hi,

My '88 Scirocco had bigger f/r sway bars and the front strut tie bar. I noticed a big difference in stiffness over stock. I never did install the rear triangulated strut bar as I was in college and needed to be able to haul my stuff around.

It just seems to me that when I have the top off and the windows down, the car twists a bit more. I also had thought that by adding the front strut bar that it would magnify the twisting with top off....

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Do your dad and you share everything? Never mind, I'll ask your mom next time I see her.
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Tell us if it is steet, DE, race, AutoX or what...

There are a number of things that are supposed to stiffen up the Targas. You might want to spend (a lot of) time searching and filtering out inappropriate threads.

Also, I'm sure Thom has done some stuff on his - ah - modified vehicle.
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The word "on the street" is that doesn't do anything. I have a bolt-in autopower roll bar in my '78. I find the car to be very stiff, even with the top off.
I don't know what srtreet you live on but I have sold almost 300 sets of the Targa bars with out a single one sent back or any complaints that they don't do the job.
I have a small company and unjustified rumors can affect my business. So unless you personally have knowledge of any product not doing its job please don't spread rumors. I have said it before and will say again that if the Targa bars do not perform as advertised then send them back .

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The word "on the street" is that doesn't do anything. I have a bolt-in autopower roll bar in my '78. I find the car to be very stiff, even with the top off.
the conclusion I have come to after talking to several Targa owners with Targa Bars is that if you have a "tight" car the noticable difference is minimal. If your car is more "flexy", as many higher mileage 911's are, the difference is more noticable.

There is not doubt that a triangulated roll bar is probably superior, but I am a family man and need to put children in the back seat.

I plan to put then in my car even though it feels pretty tight, because if it slows down the inevitable cracking of the body in front of the door pillars, it will have been worth the expense.
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Strut bar helps. Also harness bar (just empirically knowledge) makes the roof "squeak & rattle" less.
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Well, I can't tell you what to do first. When I was looking at similar questions I found lots of opinions but nothing really definitive.

I can tell you that after a couple years of upgrades, my targa is very stiff (but still seems fine on the road to me). Here's what I've done:

Koni sports all round
Weltmeister strut bar
Speedware harness bar with targa down tubes (mounts to seat belt mount-points)
Beefier torsion bars
TRG sways
Elephant racing bushings
Turbo tie rods
New A-arms

And of course, alignment and corner balance. The car really, really handles nicely.
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Originally posted by Jay Auskalnis
The word "on the street" is that doesn't do anything. I have a bolt-in autopower roll bar in my '78. I find the car to be very stiff, even with the top off.

When will you "non-owners" learn? If you don't try it, you won't know.

I actually bought a set and while it still isn't (and never will be) as stiff as a coupe, it stiffened it up a little.

FWIW, I am still in the market for a shock tower brace, because that works to solve a different issue.

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