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Oil level needle is pegged
I have pulled the wires at the sending unit and put a test light on them; the light does not come on. The guage stays pegged even with the wires at the sending unit disconnected.
I have not pulled the guage itself, but it is obviously receiving a current, or it would not peg when the ignition comes on. What is the most likely cause? A short? If so, where? (There is a VERY old thread on this subject, so I apologize for the new one, but the old one did not help.) |
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Start by pulling the gauge out and inspecting the wires leading to it. Sounds like the insulation is cracked on one and shorting.
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I do believe there is a short to ground in the wire somewhere. Could be bare anywhere but you may want to check in the area of the tank. Didnt the targa do that Harold? I recall that it quit working and I could move the wire around at the tank and it would move erratically.
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Also, to get the gauge O-Ring to seat properly on installation lube it with glass cleaner (Glass Plus, etc.).
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My oil level gauge works the same way. If I disconnect the wire to the sender the gauge pegs high. When I reconnect the sender wires, the gauge reads right again.
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Bad sending unit or disconnected wire = pegged gauge. Check continuity of the wire between the sending unit and the rear of the gauge, but the problem is very well a bad sending unit.
Good luck -
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Sounds like a grounding issue to me.
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My oil level gauge did this. I removed the sender cleaned the contacts and replace the connectors, didn't work any better. I replaced the oil level sender and it works great now
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Thanks guys
Since you have confirmed that a bad sending unit will peg the guage, this is probably the issue.
Thanks for your help! |
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The oil quantity sending unit in my 78 is a pretty darn simple device - just a float arm on a wire-wound rheostat. If yours is this same type, anyone handy with basic electonics can repair them.
Clean, inspect wire windings on the insulator, check the slider contact and the tension. That's about it. Definately inspect it before deciding to plunk down $80 on a new one.
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Check continuity from the oil level sender to the gauge(I think a green wire with white stripe), you should also have continuity from the other wire to ground. Also ohm across the two sender terminals - it should not be infinity... good luck
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Maybe there's 24 quarts of oil in the engine?
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Okay...What in the heck does "pegged" mean? The neddle is stuck somewhere? Doesn't work at all?
My oil level gauge stopped working. Was the neddle pegged? I replaced the sender unit. Now it is working. Is the neddle "unpegged" now? My apologies for the newbie question.
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pegged means needle all the way at the top indicating 'super full'..
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Pegged means it goes to the maximum deflection. Gauges have a small "peg" there so the needle must stop and not make a complete circle and twist off. The oil level sender has a ground on one side and the other wire/side goes to the gauge. The sender is a variable resistor. that changes based on the movement of a float mounted on a lever arm floating in the oil. You can tell the side attached to ground by simply looking. An "open" will give you full needle deflection (pegged) and a short (to ground) should give no needle deflection. You can test the sender by disconnecting the output wire going to the gauge. That creates an "open" which gives full deflection. Touching that wire to chassis ground should give no needled deflection. If it works like described...the problem is either the sender or bad contacts on the ground wire side. If it does not, the problem is in the gauge or wiring between the sender and gauge.
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Do you have to drain out all the oil when removing the sender??
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Probably not Pål since the sender ain't located in the bottom..
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bigchillcar and fintstone--thank you for explaining "pegged." I love this board. The depth of knowledge is mind boggling.
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