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? on replacement front suspension pan parts
I did one of these a few weeks ago. I forgot to put in the doubling plates that go over the suspension PU. They are underneath the tank support over top of the threaded inserts where the front of the A arms bolt up. We were in a hurry so decided to leave them off for now and put them on later. This pan came from Mid America. I did not buy the pan.
I just got the front pan for my car from a different source (Restoration Design is not available right now because of there move I guess???) And these doubling panels are not included. I called the supplier and they said they dont even offer them for sale??? I looked at RDs web site and they dont have them listed either? My pan was from Vertex because its closer to me and shipping time was shorter (I had been waiting on RD for over a month and have to get my car done). My questions: Is this doubler important? Seems like it would be structurally? Has any body else done these with out this piece? Any body got a couple they can spare :-)) TIA
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Here is a pic of te parts I am talking about. The doubler plate sits right above where the gas tank support is laying in the pic. (over the top of the holes where the A arm bolts up.
FYI these parts are not availble at Pelican right now. 
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front pan doublers
I also got my pan from Vertex and noticed it did not have the doublers for the fwd A arm attachment bolts. I assume you mean these:
 I'm going to remove these from the old pan and re-use them. Yes, I think they are necessary to stabilize the "t" nuts that are only tack welded to the pan. Plus some additional welding is needed to make the "t" nuts more secure, IMHO. Can you re-use yours, or are they rusted too badly?
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Mine are way gone. You are about .....10 hours behind me in that picture :-))
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Foriegn Intrigue sell both pieces for $200.00 . 1-800-800-8070 .
They have them in stock ready to go . I just bought them and installed them on a 1970 coupe . Excellent fit . Big job ! took about 10 hrs . Kurt Williams
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Kurt: $200.00 for just the re-inforcement peices, or for the "front pan kit"??
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EW; old pic
here's where I am now:
 
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Kurt: ELombard has the two panels, what he is looking for are the two reinforcement doublers that are not included on some replacement suspension pans.
EW: as a last resort I would fabricate (or have it done by a sheet metal shop) some doublers from .040 sheet stock. They don't have to look like the factory pieces, you could even make them out of stock channel, you don't need the flange around the periffery, that is there to facilitate spot welding, not needed if you gas or arc weld it in. Sorry I don' know how to draw on a computer to better show what I'm suggesting . Basically you want to provide a second attach point for those"T" nuts, which makes for a more stable and stronger area to bolt the suspension to. But I'm sure you know that. Good luck, and let us know how you made out.
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Thanks Ted, good idea. I will just bend up a piece of stock that attaches to the T nuts and welds to the pan and the rail. wont be pretty but its not like you can see it. Its not like thats the only piece of fabrication I am going to have to meat ball :-))
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EW; Yeah, it's time to use the old "EE" Degree. (Eyeball Engineering)
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