What is fair price for this 1986 911 Carrera?

[oly]

What does everybody think this is worth?

Thanks,

Art


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US model
156,000 (original miles)
Iris Blue Metallic
Paint Code: 33 P 9 3 Iris Blaumetalic S3
Re-sprayed original color in 2000
Interior - Navy Blue, Partial Leather
3.2-Liter Horizontally Opposed Flat 6 Cylinder
Original un-modified
Model 915 5-Speed Manual
Original un-modified
Porsche Factory 5 Spoke Fuchs Forged Alloy w/ Black Painted Centers & Clear Anodized Lips
6x16 Fronts
7x16 Rears
Yohohama AVS ES-100
New 03/11/03 w/ only 3,000 miles
205x55 Fronts
225x50 Rears
Power Windows
Power Seats
Air Conditioning
Cruse Control
Head Light Washers
Premium Paint Color
Leather Interior
Momo Steering Wheel w/ Porsche Crest Horn Button
Smart Racing Steering Wheel Extension
Momo Shift Level Knob (also have an original equip. knob)
Blaupunkt RDP 435 AM/FM/CD
Blaupunkt PCXi 542 & 462 Speakers
Bosch H4 Headlights w/ Painted Trim Rings (also have the original headlights)
Stoneguard Fog Lamp Protection
Swepco 201 Transmission Gear Oil
Optima Red Top Battery
Weltmeister Short Shift Kit (not installed)
Rebuilt Pedal Cluster w/ New Brass Bushings & Springs
New Clutch Cable & Springs
Rebuilt Shift Linkage w/ New Bushings & Coupler
New Front & Rear Deck Lid Struts
New Driver's Side Door Stay
New Interior Rear View Mirror
New Engine Sound Insulation Pad
Bentley Service Manual
Jack Pad
Soft Socket Lug Wrench
Major Service, Valve Adjustment, AC Service, and Misc. Repairs Performed 09/30/05
interior in great shape and very clean

Seller provided receipts for all the above upgrades and maintenance.
Seller also provided service records for:
1. last four years which is about 148,000 to 156,000 (present) miles
2. first 10 years which is 0 to 94,300 miles

Have not done pre-purchase inspection yet, but for estimate purposes assume:
1. Compression test good: pressure on all cylinders are within 15% of eachother
2. Leak down test good: < 10% leakage on all cylinders
3. Body good: no rust or accidents

Main drawbacks: no record of major work (replace or rebuild) of clutch, transmission, or engine

[Emission]

Says "new engine sound pad" - not in the pics however.

What it's worth is what someone is willing to pay. As these cars get older and older, ballpark pricing is just that. Only late model cars have solid "Blue Book" values.

That car can be anywhere from $13,000 - $19,000 (just a guess, btw).

[imcarthur]

$15 - 16K ?

Negatives: High miles. Few records. Repaint.
Positives: Repaint. Sounds like somebody took care of it.

Ian

[jester911]

Having no record of the work done means that you really cannot consider it in the asking price IMHO. With the high mileage of this car I really can't say it is worth more than 12 or 13k. It may be a great car but for 16 or 17 you can get something with half the mileage.

Just my opinion

[ryanmt]

I paid about 11k for my 86 911 coupe with 125k. Since then i've put about $4k into her and lots of time. If I could do it again I would probably pay more and get a well maintained machine.

[oly]

All,

I should have included this in the first post initially so I'll add it now:

Seller provided receipts for all the above upgrades and maintenance.
Seller also provided service records for:
1. last four years which added about 8,000 miles
2. first 10 years which is about 94,000 miles

Again, no records of no record of major work (replace or rebuild) of clutch, transmission, or engine. BUT lots of documentation for everything else.

[ThePointman]

I would have to say that it really depends on you. I just paid 20K Canadian for a similar 85 Coupe with 240,000kms (150,000miles) Mine needs a new A/C compressor and some minor touch ups. These cars are much harder to find here then in the US though, so the price tends to be higher here. I would pay the same again for my car, she is worth every penny. <-- My grin looks alot like that when I am driving her. I do have all the maintenance records for mine. Tranny rebuild etc ... Nice looking car you are considering, how about some interior pics?

[JR_NYC]

$12k - $15k. Look in the classifieds here on Pelican for confirmation, there are a number of high mileage non-G50s for sale.

[Sonic dB]

Receipts for Maintanance are GOLD.

[smstcoach]

$17,285. That's what I paid for mine last year.

[island911]

What Sonic said. . .

and; Looks clean, and has believable milage.

You really have to go by condition here. From what I've experienced MANY 911 owners fuch with the milage.

On the down side, I think that blue interior is the toughest to turn (sell).

[Elu]

I paid $12,900 for my '74. I paid $1000 to a garage to pull it apart and check out the rebuild on the engine. It had 32,000 miles on a rebuilt but had no records. The mechanic adjusted the heads and did a bleed down on the cyls. The rest of the car was immaculate. I have had to put another $5000.00 into it to replace the parts that most people don't think about, like smashed external oil cooler lines that leaked, a few sensors that leaked as well, but nothing major. But it costs money to get some of this done...unless of course you are willing to do alot of it yourself.

[masraum]

It depends upon the results of a PPI and how it drives, but I'd say anywhere from $12k-$16k

[Rot 911]

Oly, this car seems to be just what you are looking for:

1987 Carrera $16,500

[Yellowbird RS]

no more than $15k

Kurt that is a great looking car and cheap!

[oly]

Thanks for the advice everybody!

(Sorry for the delayed response, I've been without power for a few days.)

[Barrpete]

I paid $14,500 for mine last february. Body & interior in good, not excellent, shape, 113000 miles & all service records. Several minor repairs since, tie rod ends had torn boots - upgrade to turbo's. Replaced oil cooler lines, steering wheel bushing, hood shocks, power window switches........... But nothing major.

[oly]

Thanks Barrpete.