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randywebb 12-19-2005 07:25 PM

Congrats - now, how do you clean the engine w/o alerting the other guy in the garage?

slotcar 12-19-2005 08:44 PM

Keep us informed...please post pics when you change out your seals.

Thomas Owen 12-20-2005 02:19 AM

I love the picture at the end of each session showing the cover back on the car.
You are doing a great job so far. Most of the time there would be a trail of oil and grease footprints all around the car, not to mention discarded beer and soda cans, pizza boxes...no, wait... that is the NoVA engine drop.
Keep the pictures coming.

diverdan 12-21-2005 12:43 AM

Keep up the good work-- I mean minor cleaning. We gotta love ya for this project!

Diverdan

buster73 12-21-2005 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by randywebb
how do you clean the engine w/o alerting the other guy in the garage?
Engine is no problem. Once the tins are removed (for powder coating) there is not much left and I can give it a "dry cleaning" with some degreaser and many rags. Engine bay is also not too dirty. Biggest challenge will be underbody area above the tranny/starter where I found tons of accumulated dirt and grease. I guess I better stop by at Costco to get a family package of degreaser and shop towels. I have a big cardboard to position under the car while I do the cleaning. Hope that will prevent the big mess. Tranny and small stuff are heading to a local steam cleaner station. Will post some pictures a.s.a.p.

Seeeu911 12-21-2005 01:44 PM

this is great fun, as compared to the other posters and my garrage in the middle of a project ! lots o fun watching your project....

JK-81SC 12-22-2005 06:16 AM

I'm impressed by what you have done, while being undetected by your neighbor. If he notices the jack, just tell him you had a flat tire.

If my neighbor was as neat and meticulous as you have been, I won't care if you did a complete engine rebuild.

This thread is great fun to follow, keep us up to date.

buster73 12-22-2005 01:41 PM

Today I removed the rear fuel lines together with the old CIS fuel pump. I will replace all the rubber lines with new hoses, recycling the metal part of the lines (still wondering if I should use steel braided hose or standard black hose ??). I also removed the two large vent hoses for the evaporation system. One of them was filled with a nasty oil sludge, no wonder the system was not working anymore. Also unbolted the clutch and of course the flywheel needs to be resurfaced. Pretty deep scratches and I hope it can be done within the thickness tolerance. The good point is that the car looks stunning underneath, under all the layers of dirt and deposits. The original PVC undercoating is flawless and shows no sign of cracking or delamination. I guess the constant oil spray from gearbox and engine helped to keep it soft. Always knew there was a reason why these old engines leak some oil.
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randywebb 12-22-2005 02:14 PM

I like the black hose. It worked for Porsche -- for 30 years or more...

BTW, both Grady & Steve W. reccomend moving the fuel pump up front - there's a thread on it.

buster73 12-23-2005 04:36 PM

Great - first phase of the tear down is completed. Engine tins, front pulley and flywheel are removed. Will now give it a break for the holidays and then I will have to wait for the powder coating and the resurfaced flywheel. Next year we will just have to put everything back together again. As the car will sit for a while, I have stepped up the camouflage. Jacks are almost invisible and even the rear wheels are back on the ground (at least thats how it looks like). Happy holidays to everyone !!

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buster73 12-23-2005 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by randywebb
BTW, both Grady & Steve W. reccomend moving the fuel pump up front - there's a thread on it.
Thanks - thought about it, but think I will keep the original pump in the back. Had never any trouble with it there and with the carburetors it lives an easy life anyway back there (compared to the original CIS). However I will prepare all the lines so I can swap in a new Facet pump, in case the old pump runs out of steam one day.

aigel 12-23-2005 04:52 PM

Nice work. However I think it's time to move. I would not buy or rent something where I am told what to do in the garage. That's going to feel too much like Germany! :D

George

BReyes 12-24-2005 01:44 PM

Aigel: That is the point bro.

911pcars 12-25-2005 11:05 AM

I agree with aigel. I'm not sure worrying about camoflaging your property is worth it. If this were your spouse, it'd be understandable. If possible, I suggest finding a new neighbor or garage (or spouse).

MHO,
Sherwood

randywebb 12-25-2005 11:25 AM

The worst thing that can happen is they kick him out for a lease violation. I hear it is really hard to get rid of renters in Calif. so that might take a while. Also, he doesn't appear to be violating the intent of the lease, since he says it reads "minor maintenance" -- i.e. don't make a mess (he isn't).

Bill_Rockoff 12-25-2005 11:31 AM

Nice job! Good camoflauge job, too. You might have better luck using a larger generic car cover temporarily, which would hang down to the ground and cover up any jacks or stands in use (or even let you leave the wheels off the ground.)

buster73 12-28-2005 02:00 PM

Don't worry guys, so far no danger of eviction. And I will move anyway next year, so even the worst case scenario would not be a big problem. While waiting for my powder coater, I went ahead and started cleaning the engine bay. Luckily the 3M adhesive remover works fine for removing the multiple layers of old adhesive from the firewall. After degreasing the whole engine bay will now get a fresh coat of paint. I also had my flywheel resurfaced. Good deal for $30 at a local shop with a diamond wheel. Seems they had never seen a Porsche flywheel before, so I stayed next to the machine to make sure they don't mess it up and grind it all the way to the outer rim. Result looks great and the flywheel is still within tolerance. Should be good for another 300,000 miles.
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Par911 12-28-2005 02:16 PM

Damn you work fast Guenter! :)

GettinHeadStuds 12-28-2005 02:23 PM

So cool... keep it coming...

Asjac 12-28-2005 07:09 PM

I have a newb question for you...what size torx bit are the flywheel bolts? I assume that is what they are...


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