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cnielsen 01-06-2006 07:03 AM

tranny diagnosing question...LSD or not
 
I recently purchased an SC to use as a daily driver and apparently it was ordered with a Limited slip diff. I have one in my other car and I know the wheels are supposed to spin the same direction with the LSD and the opposite direction with an open diff.

Well on this SC, if you spin one tire manually, the other one does not move at all. Both can be moved independantly but it does not affect the other side.

What tranny do I have or is there a problem with the internals of the tranny...everything seems to drive fine though

Any help would be much appreciated.

Chris

pwd72s 01-06-2006 08:24 AM

Either a malfunctioning limited slip or no limited slip...

Gunter 01-06-2006 11:04 AM

Chris:
My LSD works as described: Turn one wheel and the other one turns in the same direction.
Hope someone knows the answer to your riddle.

rick-l 01-06-2006 11:45 AM

Is the car in gear or neutral?

Bill Verburg 01-06-2006 01:50 PM

the disks do wear, causing the break away force to asymptotically approach zero

the dynamic breakaway force will always be greater as the applied torque increases

cnielsen 01-06-2006 05:08 PM

so could it be worn discs? Is this part of a general rebuild or does it involve replacement of the LSD? What is the damage on something like that?

Yes, the car was in nuetral.

Bill Verburg 01-06-2006 05:15 PM

Quote:

so could it be worn discs?
Yes, they lsd did can be rebuilt w/ new friction discs, IIRC ~$700

beepbeep 01-06-2006 07:25 PM

Even worn discs will turn other tire in same direction if both are off the ground and brake ain't binding.

If other tire doesn't move at all, you have plain vanilla open diff.

Wil Ferch 01-06-2006 07:32 PM

Look at the bottom series of numbers on the transaxle casing... look for the "-12" between the type# and serial#. If it's there, it should have LSD.

- Wil

Bill Verburg 01-07-2006 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by beepbeep
Even worn discs will turn other tire in same direction if both are off the ground and brake ain't binding.

If other tire doesn't move at all, you have plain vanilla open diff.

That most certainly is not true. I have a lsd equipped G50 in my gararge right now. Worn discs and no rotation of the opposite wheel.

Discussions w/ several well respected transmission/diff guys confirm it.

cnielsen 01-08-2006 01:28 PM

OK, so I looked at the original bill of sale from the factory and the car was supposedly delivered with a LSD tranny. If I have a worn disc, is there any problem with driving it as is? The rest of the tranny works well...little hesitation in some gears and careful downshifts. I guess the question is: am I going to do more harm by not fixing it now?

Steve@Rennsport 01-08-2006 02:13 PM

Chris:

Your LSD is simply worn out,....:) If you didn't have an LSD, the opposite wheel would turn the other way when you rotate a wheel.

Its pretty simple to pull it out the side cover, unbolt the ring gear and have it rebuilt (after you drain the oil, of course).

You'll not do any harm by leaving it alone.

PorscheGuy79 01-08-2006 02:24 PM

I would confirm model numbers, the car may have been delievered with an LSD but who knows what happeneds over time with different owners. I would be sure that it truely is an LSD before you go to the hassel of tearing it apart.

Wil Ferch 01-08-2006 06:34 PM

PorscheGuy79 makes a good point.... verify that it *should* have LSD first ...( first-things-first, huh?)...

Look for the -12 as stated earlier...

- wil


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