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svandamme 01-15-2006 04:36 AM

scratch another CGT
 
http://www.porscheforum.nl/album_pic.php?pic_id=15124

rough translation

swiss hotel guest gave the cgt to a south african woman for a testdrive, less than a mile from the hotel , she lost control on the twisties...kissed a few trees and that was it for the testdrive.

note , swiss guy not in the car , passenger was another hotel guest, a belgian

driver heavely wounded
passenger only a bit

mistake 1 : lend out a cgt to anyone
mistake 2 : lend out a cgt to someone you hardly know
mistake 3 : lend it out to a woman

k9handler 01-15-2006 04:53 AM

nothing opens oin the link, except the words Geen Toegang

svandamme 01-15-2006 05:01 AM

must be some hotlink protection on that other forum,
i'll upload locallyhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1137333662.jpg

k9handler 01-15-2006 05:03 AM

wow....that has to bee the worse of the busted up GT's I have seen.

Dutchie 01-15-2006 05:15 AM

:( any news on the condition of the driver Stijn ? the article said she was still in the wreck and the firemen had to cut her out of it , the engine was meters away from it. Must have been a very hard collison.

svandamme 01-15-2006 05:20 AM

it says heavely wounded, to me that says bad but not critical, maybe lost an arm or a leg, but they don't mention driver taken away in critical condition , so i'de say still breathing...

dunno bout engine beeing meters away , i think it's still attached in the pic
maybe writer saw the tranny or something...

k9handler 01-15-2006 06:22 AM

no that appears to be the engine in the road, with the front 3/4 of the car on the roadside.

svandamme 01-15-2006 07:15 AM

some more pics came up

http://www.twente-nieuws.nl/UserFile...6/DSC_0015.JPG

http://www.twente-nieuws.nl/UserFile...6/DSC_0008.JPG


http://www.twente-nieuws.nl/UserFile...6/DSC_0003.JPG

9dreizig 01-15-2006 07:18 AM

Looks like the front rotors and calipers are in good shape. think they'll be for sale?? LOL

svandamme 01-15-2006 07:25 AM

i got dibs on the balsawood gearknob.

bell 01-15-2006 08:59 AM

technology is great......notice how nice the passenger compartment held it's shape.....although i'm sure they have "splitting" headaches :)

silverc4s 01-15-2006 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bell
technology is great......notice how nice the passenger compartment held it's shape.....although i'm sure they have "splitting" headaches :)
I am afraid the the rate of decel would exceed human limits in a crash like that, no matter how strong the CF structure.
Is there any word on the driver / passenger's condition? Hoping for the best, in spite of my comments..

svandamme 01-15-2006 09:19 AM

that cockpit did not hold ,
the firebrigade had to cut out the driver, seriously wounded, but the article did not mention critical condition...

lvporschepilot 01-15-2006 09:33 AM

I heard that the CGT is a very difficult car to drive. On a recent trip to the Lamborghini dealer out here, I talked with my salesman buddy Nick who just took in a CGT(black) for consignment. Nick, is by all means an expert driver of exotic cars. He took the car out for a test drive and stalled it 3 times in the parking lot. Ouch. Jay Leno spun his. Almost half of them will be destroyed by idiots. Perhaps Porsche should have had some sort of training in Germany when you buy the car a la Ferrari Enzo. A training coursewould undoubtedly give the consumer a better understanding for the limits these cars have and how to handle those limits.

Another very difficult car to drive is the Lotus Elise. Most definitely a driver's car yet, I see many a female-cel-phone-yaking-Las Vegas-real- estate-agents driving them though, I would hardly call it driving. More like controlled dodging.

svandamme 01-15-2006 09:38 AM

Elise difficult??? the one i drove went where i wanted it to go , when i wanted it to go there... if that's a difficult sports car, then i don't know what is easy?

lvporschepilot 01-15-2006 09:54 AM

For someone who knows what they are doing it is a great car but, I could understand how many unexperienced drivers would think it is unruly and tail happy.

svandamme 01-15-2006 10:00 AM

for those kind of people , any sports car is going to be difficult , bit unfair singling out the Elise...because of one example unfortunate enough to be in the hands of a crappy driver... i'm sure there's folks who can loose control in a Golf Rabbit, in fact, i know people who have done just that...doesn't make a Rabbit a difficult car ... in fact , if there is anything easy and predictable, it's a VW Rabbit...

9dreizig 01-15-2006 10:04 AM

I heard that the CGT is a very difficult car to drive. On a recent trip to the Lamborghini dealer out here, I talked with my salesman buddy Nick who just took in a CGT(black) for consignment. Nick, is by all means an expert driver of exotic cars. He took the car out for a test drive and stalled it 3 times in the parking lot. Ouch. Jay Leno spun his. Almost half of them will be destroyed by idiots. Perhaps Porsche should have had some sort of training in Germany when you buy the car a la Ferrari Enzo. A training coursewould undoubtedly give the consumer a better understanding for the limits these cars have and how to handle those limits.

Another very difficult car to drive is the Lotus Elise. Most definitely a driver's car yet, I see many a female-cel-phone-yaking-Las Vegas-real- estate-agents driving them though, I would hardly call it driving. More like controlled dodging.

Come on you mean having the money to afford one doesn't automatically qualify you to drive one ??? What's up with that??

lvporschepilot 01-15-2006 10:38 AM

lol. I forgot that money can buy experience. heh

randywebb 01-15-2006 11:39 AM

most humans will black out at 6 g's but regain consciousness enough in a few seconds to fly a jet

not sure what the g's would be when you hit a tree at speed xx, with a crush structure and airbags...

they must have really been speeding to rip the car in half

Pete000 01-15-2006 11:50 AM

This model seems to be jinxed

Wil Ferch 01-15-2006 11:50 AM

The car condition looks suspiciously like early test examples of the 917 ....

...separated into two pieces at exactly the same place....

- Wil

aigel 01-15-2006 12:16 PM

Re: scratch another CGT
 
Quote:

Originally posted by svandamme

mistake 3 : lend it out to a woman

I actually think that that's safer than lending it out to guys. I'd give the CGT to my wife, for example, before I'd give it to ANY of my buddies. Women usually are much more level headed if it comes to driving fast.

Now, of course, if we are talking SUV driving soccer moms on the cell, it is a different issue. But those gals ususally don't even know how to drive a stickshift, so they wouldn't get far!

George

svandamme 01-15-2006 12:23 PM

well not the one in the post i was referring to
it's the nastiest cgt wreck i've seen so far

svandamme 01-15-2006 02:18 PM

and some more pics
http://www.brandweertubbergen.nl/uit...06ongeval1.jpg
http://www.brandweertubbergen.nl/uit...06ongeval2.jpg
http://www.brandweertubbergen.nl/uit...06ongeval3.jpg
http://www.brandweertubbergen.nl/uit...06ongeval4.jpg
http://www.brandweertubbergen.nl/uit...06ongeval5.jpg
http://www.brandweertubbergen.nl/uit...06ongeval6.jpg
http://www.brandweertubbergen.nl/uit...06ongeval7.jpg
http://www.brandweertubbergen.nl/uit...06ongeval8.jpg
http://www.brandweertubbergen.nl/uit...06ongeval9.jpg
http://www.brandweertubbergen.nl/uit...6ongeval10.jpg

pretty impressive straight piece of road
original news article mentioned twisties... i don't see em

Wayne 962 01-15-2006 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pete000
This model seems to be jinxed
As Jeremy Clarkson said on Top Gear, you really need to be awake to drive this car...

-Wayne

Yellowbird RS 01-15-2006 02:45 PM

the italian spot
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1137368705.jpg

svandamme 01-15-2006 03:00 PM

the CGT looks like the better car to crash from that picture
the wrong part of the Enzo broke up unless it had an Martin Baker ejector seat ?!?

JR_NYC 01-15-2006 03:34 PM

Trees and cars don't mix.

emcdan 01-16-2006 08:36 AM

Hate to be synical but if people have the income, they will purchase something they can't handle.

Of greater incidence than the beloved GT, has anyone noticed the statistics for motorcycle deaths. In one year, (2001 I think) the average age killed on a bike went from like 23 years old to 38 years old. The baby boomers with disposable income are buying motorcycles they can't handle.


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