How much would you pay for...........

[KevinP73]

If you had the opportunity to park your car in a safe storage facility, what would you consider it worth? Lets say you could have 24/7 access,CCTv monitored in residence, indoor, individual parking bays, located at the residence of a fellow Porsche owner, power, compressed air, water for washing the car? Your free to come and go at your desire, leave your daily driver while the Porsche is being driven. NO WORKING on the cars other than charging the batteries, airing the tires and washing it. What would you be willing to pay?

[bigchillcar]

in cali or in most of the rest of the country?? in arkansas fifty bucks doesn't sound like a gouge..
ryan

[Nine9six]

If I couldn't work on my car, to me, it wouldn't be worth diddly

[bigchillcar]

what's the rationale behind no working on the car? noise? (no, i don't mean cursing), genral cleanliness and disposal concerns? pelican loitering?
ryan

[charlesbahn]

It depends on where in the country. In New York City or Chicago it would be worth alot. In Maryland, probably 100/month tops. You may still be able to work on the car:

Engine Drop - Stealth Mode

[catnmouse]

You could also save some money by negotiating with your insurance company, for instance, classic ins. will write a policy in those circumstances that is alot less than geico, but your mileage may vary....cnm

[KevinP73]

The location would be in the northern end of The San Fernando Valley. The reason for the NO WORKING rule is two fold. First it's for simplicity of purpose. "Storage only" allows for smaller bays. The building I'm working with will allow 10 bays the size of a single car garage. Second reason is that I already work in a body shop, I don't want to turn my home into one too.

[wcc]

I store mine in the attached garage and park outside most of the time anyway. But in Traverse City Michigan my Dad pays to store his car.

It includes a heated space, and the guy starts the car every couple of weeks for him. When he takes it over there and drops it off he airs up the tires and hooks up a float charger. Total cost $25 a month. I just wish it was closer to me cause I would do it too. I think this is one heck of a deal.

[DW SD]

In CA it is probably worth $100 a month, maybe more. I kept my ski boat in a covered storage rack. The racks were four stories high. Having it waiting on the water was only a phone call away. It was $100 a month and offered once a week loading and unloading from the rack included. More trips per month were $10 or so. Bargain, since I drove about 60 miles to the water and didn't have to tow it. Many owners didn't even own a trailer. This was on the Sacramento Delta.

[anthony]

I think there's no way that rental fees will cover construction costs, property tax, and liability insurance on this project.

[KevinP73]

Originally posted by anthony
I think there's no way that rental fees will cover construction costs, property tax, and liability insurance on this project.

It's already built and came with the rest of the property. CCTv is already installed to keep an eye on the horses. The property has a rear gated entrance and paved driveway with motion detectors for the yard lights.
The no working rule is a way to avoid liabilty issues beyond what my standard home owners insurance will cover.

[Zeke]

Originally posted by anthony
I think there's no way that rental fees will cover construction costs, property tax, and liability insurance on this project.

Originally posted by KevinP73
The no working rule is a way to avoid liabilty issues beyond what my standard home owners insurance will cover.

I looked into this. Even in an existing building, current occupancy codes require fire sprinklers and a bunch of other stuff. When the ins company look things over is when the sht hits the fan.

That having been said, $150 was my target and w/o 24/7 access either. Oh, and you can't wash a car in SoCal w/o collecting the water separately and then treating it before dumping it in the drain. All the car washes reuse their water now.

[Steve Marshall]

Kevin,

Love the Corvairs. My first car in 1981 was a 65 Corvair Monza. It was a POS. I rebuilt the motor. It leaked worse when I was done. Painted it Dukes of Hazard orange and shoed it with Road Hugger 60's. Yeah baby! That car rocked. The frigging hood blew off the first day I drove it to school and it took me about a year to properly re-install it. We called it the wheel barrel.

What's the market like on those these days? They still seemed reasonable a few years ago when I last looked into it.

[bigchillcar]

kevin,
reread your initial post..i'd missed the part where it's at your residence..helps explain the 'no work' policy. like zeke, i did wonder about water reclamation issues, knowing how strict cali is on envirnmental issues..
ryan

[sammyg2]

In Mexifornia a business must have a written and approved storm water prevention program, a storm water permit (about $900 per year), and have inspections done by the city every year (another $60).
You must implement best business practices to prevent pollution from getting into the storm sewers, perform quarterly inspections (monthly during storm season) and take run off samples that have to be tested by an independent lab and submit those results to the state.
I just went through this with my company.
BTW, allowing water from car washing to go to the sewer is a violation. Same goes with washing down the lot. can't do it.
If you are going to allow cars to be washed you will have to contain, treat, and sample the water before it goes to the sewer.
Major PITA.

[DW SD]

Does he really have to tell the authorities that "friends" are parking their cars in his garage? I agree that may cross an ethical boundary, but what's the difference really? Hardly seems like an ethical violation to me, if a few extra cars are washed once a month?
I wash my wife's car once a week. The owner's would have washed the cars more if they were parked outside (not in proper, enclosed storage), that's for sure. The universal impact on storm drains should be much less?

Doug

[bigchillcar]

i agree with doug, insofar that were it a 'reg' in arkansas, it would go ignored by everyone..then when the 'infraction' were noticed, we'd say 'ohhhh' and be let off with a warning and mayyyybe have a code enforcer come back and check. if still not in compliance, say 'ohhhhhhhhh..you meant right away!' that's how we don't get things done in the south..
ryan

[sammyg2]

Yes, he can break the law. Yes he can get away with it.
What's the difference really? That's a personal question with moral and ethical implications. Everyone has to decide for themselves.
I only stated what the law dictates.
To run a business in this state you are supposed to register the business and get a business license. It may be difficult to get insurance without doing that.
If he registers it as a business they will probably check on him, in Santa Fe Springs local fire inspector does it and will write up a notice to comply. Enforcement varies from city to city but is getting tougher everywhere.
If he doesn't register it as a business they probably will never find out, he will probably never get caught, and will probably never have to answer to the EPA, dept. of fish and game, or the IRS.

[randywebb]

Well if he skirts the law, the potential risk could be huge...

If he is charging for it, then he has a business and it isn't just letting friends store cars there.

Check and see if all businesses need the stormwater permit - there might be an exclusion for small businesses - or maybe only certain types.

The reason for the stormwater permit is that stormwater turns out to be really nasty stuff - esp. in arid climates and in huge pop'n centers like SoCal.

[randywebb]

Oh - forgot to mention - some friends of mine are about to start some stormwater enforcement here... the max. penalty is about $32,000 per day per violation. I'd say each car was a violation, but that is something you pay an attorney $300/hr to argue in court. This type of thing would be much much less, but...

Bottom line... be careful.