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Fire extinguisher, where would you secure it?

I have a stock 84 911 and want to secure a fire extinguisher with as little cosmetic disruption as possible. Where did you or where would you put it so it could be quickly accessed and look good?

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If you put it behind the passenger seat you can reach it with your harness on.
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Regs say where you can reach it.....is this a track or street car?
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Street car and completly original.
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On the hump in front of the shifter if it doesn't have a center console...or under your legs in front of the driver seat...Brey Krause makes a spendy but nice looking mount.
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Mine is on top of tunnel behind the e-brake lever right between the seats. As mentioned above, it should be easy to reach - ideally for the driver and the passenger. If your engine is on fire you don't want to start looking for the extinguisher in the trunk. Even more true if the trunk area is on fire. Just make sure to mount it safely, so it won't go ballistic in an accident (and with metal mounts if you want to do DE or track events).
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The Brey Krause are nice and theoretically easy to install, but depending on your height can really restrict seat movement. I'm 5' 11" and had to reposition my whole seat in order to get my regular driving position back and not have the fire extinquisher rub a hole in the front of the seat.
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I just bought the Brey Krause, haven't installed it yet. But here's a link showing other options...

http://www.early911sregistry.org/forum/showthread.php?t=9137
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PERFECT, found some great places to secure it on the above string. I think between the back seats on top of the coupler access plate is where I will put it.

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A couple of data points:
- In my PCA region) attaching it to the transmission coupler tunner cover won't pass tech. According to out rules, the fire extinguisher bracket must be bolted down. The trans cover is only held on by a few self tapping screws.
- The brackets that come with the extinguisher normally have a single strap. There are double strap versions that are a little more secure. The last extinguisher I bought, I ordered the 2 strap bracket and they gave it to me for free (swapped it for the single strap that came with the extinguisher).
- One place to mount the extiguisher is behind the passenger seat on the vertical part of the firewall between the seat bottom and the floor. It will make some small holes but they will be invisible when the extinguisher bracket is removed.
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FWIW, the Brey Krause mount is drilled to accept the mounting bracket of the AMEREX brand 2.5 pound Halon extinguisher. This bracket has the 2 straps release. I still haven't installed mine. Waiting for a break in the waves of storms pounding Oregon right now.
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Where's a good place to get a cheap halon extinguisher? Any recommended brands? What size works best? I have an ABC extinguisher now, but I sure as hell don't want to blow all that powdery crap into the nether recesses of a burning Porsche.
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The Brey Krause is good, but I had to remove it when I went to Recaro's as there just wasn't enough clearance for it. May be an issue with some aftermarket seats...

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On my SC, a street car in origional condition, I screwed it to the back of the passenger seat so it's horizontally 3 or 4 inches of the floor. Easy to reach, doesn't get in the way, and can't be seen.
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Halon tends to be pricey...see link for a comaparison price on identical units but one is b/c dry powder whereas other is halon

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Where's a good place to get a cheap halon extinguisher? Any recommended brands? What size works best? I have an ABC extinguisher now, but I sure as hell don't want to blow all that powdery crap into the nether recesses of a burning Porsche.
I just started shopping around for one. Pelicans prices are actually pretty good from what I've seen...

http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/shopcart/MISC/POR_MISC_safet2-detail.htm

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Then again, for a hundred bucks I can buy a lot of engine cleaning and detailing - maybe I will keep my old ABC extinguisher.
Do these P-cars spontaneousely burst into flames with any frequency?
I mean, it's not like it's a FORD...
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Personally, I am not a fan of halon. Halon is a gas. If you have a burning engine with surfaces hot enough to ignite gasoline, and they do not cool sufficiently before the halon extinguisher is exhausted, the fire will re-ignite once the fire extinguisher runs dry.

The same is true for carbon dioxide extinguishers, although CO2 extinguishers are more likely to cool metal surfaces on contact.

Dry chemical extinguishers leave a fire retardant blanket of powder on hot surfaces that will help prevent re-ignition of a fire after the extinguisher has gone dry. Yes, it will be a pain to clean up, but so will any engine that has caught fire.

All that aside, I like the mount in front of the seat the best so far.
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Spontaneous combustion is rare....but, like any older car you have to keep an eye on fuel lines, gas leaks etc. That being said, I have an acquantance that died in a Porsche fire...but it was ruled a homicide and is as of yet unresolved.

Make no mistake, halon is much tidier...I hacked up crap for days after being in a race car that caught fire and was extinguished by a number zealous corner workers with 10# dry chemical extinguihers.

Halon apparently depletes the ozone as when I first started racing 15 yrs ago it was only marginally more expensive than dry chemical units. Plus you used to be able to get them recharged fairly easily. Sorta like r12 vs r134 freon... EPA regs I suppose.

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