Sway bars???? Whats the best set up???.

herman maire · 12:20 PM

Can you guys please tell me what is the best set up and at what point it becomes overkill.

These will be going on my RSR replica STREET/TRACK car with a coilover set up in the rear, maybe the front also. Tire set up for street, maybe a 275R/ 255F .

Also im trying to get the most front end bite possible. Would a big bar in the rear and a soft set up in the front make any sense?

What are the opinions on the base model weltmeister 22MM bars. There pretty affordable . How adjustable are they.

Also whats the opinions on the big expensive bars 23, 24MM ect TRG bars...

All info apreciated
thanks

Cory M · 02-03-2006, 11:17 AM

I think the Tarret bars are the best bang for the buck:

http://www.tarett.com/Browse_dept_items.asp/categ_id/1/parent_ids/0/Name/911_Series_Products

herman maire · 02-03-2006, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cory M
I think the Tarret bars are the best bang for the buck:

http://www.tarett.com/Browse_dept_items.asp/categ_id/1/parent_ids/0/Name/911_Series_Products

Beautiful stuff for sure, but other than the weight advantage is really worth almost twice the price of the weltmeister bars.

rpiper · 02-03-2006, 12:38 PM

Pay up for good ones. If you buy the Weltmeisters you'll end up wanting better ones ( I had the Welts on for 1 season and then went with Charlie Bars. )
Just my .02

herman maire · 01:48 PM

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Originally posted by rpiper
Pay up for good ones. If you buy the Weltmeisters you'll end up wanting better ones ( I had the Welts on for 1 season and then went with Charlie Bars. )
Just my .02

In what ways did they fall short VS charlie bars?

In the SmartRacing catalog for competition suspension for 69-89 911's they list the recomended sway bars as No.31bar for the front and No.27 for the rear.
Do those # = MM
thanks

SC-targa · 02-03-2006, 01:43 PM

Shouldn't you decide on your anti-roll bars after you have set your spring rates? If you have really stiff rear spring rates, you don't need a stiff rear bar. Not much help, was I?

Jerry

herman maire · 02-03-2006, 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by SC-targa
Shouldn't you decide on your anti-roll bars after you have set your spring rates? If you have really stiff rear spring rates, you don't need a stiff rear bar. Not much help, was I?

Jerry

I will take all the info I can get.

I know there has been so many treads on sway bars. I guess I am just trying to find out if the high end bars are worth the asking price VS weltmeister stuff and whats the best sizes.

Lukesportsman · 02-03-2006, 03:09 PM

Honestly, if your considering 31's on the front, you better be looking for the best and going through the body to get there. I wouldn't think you'd want or need that large a set of bars for a street car. It will make street bumps and potholes feel like a solid axle car nearly. OK, thats exagerating but you'll loose compliance.

If your seriously thinking "huge" bars, then I would think the hollow characteristic is going to become important. If that was simply an example, I haven't helped you a darn bit.

I went with Smart just to never have to go "I wonder if" and it will allow me to change bars as components if I deem it necessary. As its been said here before, you can't cross reference the aftermarket bars since they have different leverage points in addition to different "bars".

Jeff Alton · 02-03-2006, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by herman maire
In what ways did they fall short VS charlie bars?

In the SmartRacing catalog for competition suspension for 69-89 911's they list the recomended sway bars as No.31bar for the front and No.27 for the rear.
Do those # = MM
thanks

Yes, that equates to mm, nut each manufacture has different length levers on the bars and different wall thickness, all which affect the rate of the bar. The Tarret ones say 22mm but infact measure 25.4 mm.............

I have run both Tarett and SRP on my car, the Tarret ones are very very light weight and well made, and seem to hold up well. I went to the SRP ones because I wanted a little more rate in them......

Cheers

umgang · 02-03-2006, 08:09 PM

I had advice from one of the best, Steve Weiner @ Rennport Systems-www.rennsportsystems.com. He explained the symbiosis of spring rates (torsion bars) , shock/strut compression and rebound, sway bars and their adjustments=handling. This takes into account your car's weight, types and sizes of tires, HP, and what the car is used for. Steve designed and set up a perfect system for my car-incredible, and I only had to do it once!
Oh yeah, Smart Racing through the body adj. sways-designed by Dave Klym of Fabcar.
Nick

lateapex911 · 02-03-2006, 08:39 PM

I just installed some of the Smart Racing bars, and they are truly a significant cut above the Weltmeister. I also race in the SCCA, so I've seen some sway bars in my day. The SRP bars are the kit. Fantastic in their quality, but the engineering and design is even better.

Super easy to install, and very adjustable.

The real deal.

GrantG · GrantG's Garage

The Tarretts look alot like my Charlie Bars. Are they the same?

Jeff Alton · 02-03-2006, 10:25 PM

The Charlie bars are different. The Tarrets only come in one size, where the charlie bars were available in different sizes. Tarret make the bars that Elephant sells as well as the ones that Kokeln sells as well. They are great bars, but only available in one size. Very light weight well finished aluminum parts come with them as well. The SRP ones are the next step up. Like Charlie bars, the SRP ones allow changing out the bar to a different size without changing any of the hardware. But the rates overlap so much that if you pick correctly the first time I don't know that you will ever have to change the bar.....

IF dollars are a real concern, get the Welts, if you want a real quality product at a good price on are not racing for trophies and such, get the tarret ones, if you want the best at any cost, get the SRP ones. I have run all three of them on different cars and used the SRP and Tarett ones both on the current car.

Cheers