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Detailing black paint

I have a black car and washed and waxed it with eagle one eax 2 weeks ago. I washed it today and all my old scratches came back after 1 wash. I dont realy want to wax my car every time i wash it so is there a special way for the wax to stay for a couple of wash's. Is there a sealer or 2 step that works better than the regular wax that comes off after one wash? Please help with any info!

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What kind of soap did you use? Also, which Eagle One "wax" did you use. Carnuba wax is great for drak colored cars.
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I used the eagle 1 wet look wax and i used turtle wax car wash.
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Well you are using the right soap. Some people use dish washing soap, which would strip any wax off. Now as far as the "Wet Look" wax, is it really a wax. Black is really tough to keep scratch free. You could try a scratch/swirl remover, then apply several coats of wax. Have you ever tried Zymol waxes?
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what is the best people say zymol or zaino? Should i apply a sealer and how many coats of wax should i do and should it be machine or hand waxed?
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here's another link to Socals thread: didnt work when i tried his--GREAT INFO
Eureka! I have found the secret to PERFECT black paint! (long)
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Try 3M Imperial Hand Glaze to make those microscratches disappear.
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thank my porsche has a new paint job that is black but i just bought 2004 expedition for the wife that is black an i think the old owner never waxed it so i will try the link and post my results. and thank you everyone for all the help!
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3M Imperial Hand Glaze followed by Dri-'N-Wash...

sounds goofy.... works great on not having swirls..especially for black paint.

Local hi-end body shop uses this unconventional , but proven, method....

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I have three black cars. I use Klasse all in one and Glaxe. Be sure you use the best micro fiber cloths, towels, buffing pads, wash mits etc. Not the walmart brand. I know this by experience!! I have found lots of info at this site.

http://www.properautocare.com/
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old paint with No wax. Wheel well is rusting out.

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There is some good information on wwwcarcareonline.com.
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Man, look at those lumps and curves in the fender paint....although, I think I could "hand rub" them out....heh...heh...heh.
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The only way to get the scratches and swirls out is to buff them out. I highly recommend the Porter Cable orbital buffer. It's mostly idiot proof and you can't hurt the car. I bought my setup from these guys:

http://www.properautocare.com/bufpol.html

For polish I'm a big fan of Menzerna:

http://www.properautocare.com/mengerbespol.html

Unless you have oxidized paint you could probably just start with their Menzerna Final Polish II and then finish off with a wax or acrylic sealant like Zaino or Klasse. This is what I do for my daily drivers. It's a quick two step process. If your paint needs deeper cleaning you can step up to a three step process and start with the Menzerna Intensive Polish.

If you want to be really anal you can do a 5 step process:
clay, polish, polish II, glaze, seal (wax).

Glazing is good if you have scratches that can't be buffed out.

Anyway, the orbital buffer is the best car accessory I ever bought. The time savings and the results are amazing.

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