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windnoise kit automotion
I know it is cursing in the church but did anybody buy and install the anti windnoise kit from automotion? I amwondering how and where to put the metal parts from the kit.
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Does this kit even work?...I've thought about doing it myself many times
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Windnoise kit? My coupe hasn't any, but I would like the part number. Don't see it with a search at their site.
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The rubber plugs are self explanatory, but the clips are supposed to be siliconed or riveted? They look in the pictures to be like a clip that would slide into place and be used to fasten the door panel/hardware. They are referred to as "late style" which could mean you throw them in the trash. Best to just call them and ask if you have your door panel off and they don't appear to fit any where.
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I bought this kit for my '68 911, but haven't tried to install it yet. Just a quick glance at the clips doesn't make it obvious where they go.
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Where is your wind noise? I have one right next to the dash and driver door. I thought it was just a weather stripping problem.
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Take a look at the diagram that Automotion provides at the link above. The "clips" are actually thin pieces of plastic that cover the joints between the door body and the window frame. Porsche installed them in the later cars along with a sloppy helping of Black Goo, which is a highly technical term for butyl rubber, dum dum or black mastic, or some such. If someone has mid-eighties Carrera handy, perhaps they could take a picture of the area showing where they are placed.
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anyone has one? :-)
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Pelican can supply anything out of the Automotion or Performance catalogue. If you happen to be ordering some other stuff, you may save on shipping. I say "may" because the new Pelican format calls for free shipping in many cases and most items are shipped direct from vendor.
Still, it doesn't hurt to call Pelican, it a free call. (no, I don't work for them.) If you don't see something, call them. |
this kit was on my SC when purchased. I don't find that it helps. IMO< the door alignment has a bit to do with wind noise. My passenger door hinges are nice and tight=low wind noise. The driver's, though, could probably use new hinge pins. I do get noise even though I have replaced all of the wetherstripping with new. Don't we all get SOME windnoise in these cars? I think the mirrors have a ot to do with it.
I can post a picture when I get home. |
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Passenger side door. Sorry about the quality. I was in a hurry.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1141077793.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1141077866.jpg
Hope this helps. |
Are those little clips a Porsche part?
If so, does anybody know what the p/n is? |
911.531.711.01 LF
911.531.712.01 RF 911.531.713.01 LR 911.531.714.01 RR JR |
The ones that mount at the rear of the door frame are not hard to figure out.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1162788313.jpg The two half-circle clips snap around the window frame and the interior flat part slides down into the channel. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1162788343.jpg But there is still a gap - not clear what the clip really does. I may fill the gap with some dum-dum or something. This pic also shows a nice view of a spot the painter missed... |
Looking at the piece that supposedly fits at the junction of the window frame and door... it has a small clip on one side. This is a half circle in Xsection and it appears designed to clip onto the window frame.
In the pic below the clip is on the left side of the photo. But my 1970s frame has no provision for this. Instead, the little clip prevents it from even mounting there no matter how strong the glue. I could cut the clip off and glue it on - no idea how long that would last. Does this make sense to anyone? Do yours have the clip on the sides? http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1162788080.jpg |
Windnoise? I drive my cab with the top down most of the time.
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I have tried these in the past and have not found them to work well. Maybe it was me, it could have been me, but they didn't make an improvement I could notice.
What I have found is that adjusting your window frame, door alignment, etc is the best way to get a solid contact between door and body. this naturally leads to less noise. Even my 964 as a bit of wind noise. I think it is just the way our cars are to some extent. |
Thanks James - I have some other ideas on things to do and will be posting them later. This is - supposedly - easy so thought I'd start here.
Noah, air is known to penetrate thru holes in the door and maybe the cowl and create noise -- do you have the mirror holes open or taped over? The point re cabs was already made - the 3 of you who have tried to derail this thread might want to start your own on whether noise is worth trying to overcome. |
Here is a pic of the front 'corner' seal in place. I cut off the curved tip of the plastic part as I could never figure out how it could possibly be matched to my car.*
It helped but there is still wind noise coming in from that area. I can push on the main rubber door deal with a finger inserted between the door and the dash area while driving and hear the change in noise. A dollar bill in that area meets some resistance but is pretty easy to pull thru (the gap at the front corner might be too small to really test with something as wide as a dollar bill anyway). The door already fits so tight against the seal in other areas that it is somewhat hard to close. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1164410125.jpg Note the use of dum-dum (strip calk) in the pic to seal some gaps that were still present. Maybe you don't need the Porsche plastic piece at all - I think you could just use dum-dum there. I discovered that few parts store bozos -- I mean - employees - know what dum-dum is ... here is a pic if anyone ever needs to educate the sales force so they can sell it to you.... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1164410252.jpg So I have some more tricks to try re sealing the door and will post them as I go in the future... * -- I should add that my car is a 1973.5 BUT the window frames are not stock - they are chromed brass ones, from a targa IIRC. The idea was to get opening front vents instead of the perma-closed ones. In summer, the car needs all the ventilation it can get. All the rubber around the front vents is new ~~ 3 years old by now. |
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