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rnln 03-04-2006 11:15 AM

I wish they make something like this for our car.
 
Like the one on the Mercedes SL serries.. the rollbar
http://www.streetsports.com/Photos/V.../rearhoop1.jpg

gassy 03-04-2006 11:18 AM

Pick up an early soft window Targa and you're set!

gassy 03-04-2006 11:20 AM

Why the pic of the mustang?

PorscheGuy79 03-04-2006 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gassy
Why the pic of the mustang?
Mustang? Pssh thats an SL with a body kit. Clearly.

S2GART 03-04-2006 11:51 AM

One, that is not an SL in any way shape or form. Two, that bar looks more cosmetic than anything.

ZAMIRZ 03-04-2006 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by S2GART
Two, that bar looks more cosmetic than anything.
It is. They call those "light bars" or something to that effect, it's just some ABS plastic with a 3rd brake light at the top, it adds ZERO to the structural rigidity or safety of the vehicle in a rollover.

Noah930 03-04-2006 12:40 PM

It also seems to add zero to the cosmetic appearance of the car.

Richard C2S 03-04-2006 12:42 PM

Noah,

That's exactly the point. It is there to draw your eye away from the inate beauty of that Mustang/SL.

livi 03-04-2006 12:50 PM

Handbag handle.

Would possibly fit the new Volvo C70 cab though. It looks like a total bathtub. There goes the neighborhood. No, wait, its already sold out. Good riddens. Volvo lost touch years ago anyway.

Todd Simpson 03-04-2006 12:57 PM

Turns it into a b1tch basket.

rnln 03-04-2006 08:39 PM

You guys don't understand. Sorry, I wasn't clear.
I have a convertible and want something to make it a little more rigid but not the rollcage. Something looks nicer. I don't race the car though. I saw this bar, and another one of the old SL style once in a while but I can't find pics. THe one on the SL looks much nicer but similar to this.
I didn't know this bar is only for look, and is all plastic. I thought the plastic is only the cover to male the roll bar look nicer. If it is just plastic, why the hell do I spend money and time on it?
Thanks all.

GenX Porsche 03-04-2006 11:07 PM

I dont know much about the whole mustang thing, but I do know a little about the Mercedes. The SL has a rollbar that actually pops up under hard cornering as well as if you have people sitting in the back seat, a rare option, they tell you to have the bar in the up position, has a switch like the boxster/996 spoiler. This makes the rollbar on the SL similar to the convertable 996 that pops up to protect the driver in case of a roll over. Either way I think its a good look and, if designed correctly to provide structural support, is an awesome feature.

PorscheGuy79 03-05-2006 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GenX Porsche
I dont know much about the whole mustang thing, but I do know a little about the Mercedes. The SL has a rollbar that actually pops up under hard cornering as well as if you have people sitting in the back seat, a rare option, they tell you to have the bar in the up position, has a switch like the boxster/996 spoiler. This makes the rollbar on the SL similar to the convertable 996 that pops up to protect the driver in case of a roll over. Either way I think its a good look and, if designed correctly to provide structural support, is an awesome feature.
Hes talking about the older SLs, yes the new ones have auto-deploying ones but I think the 80s ones had a solid bar like that.

PorscheGuy79 03-05-2006 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rnln
You guys don't understand. Sorry, I wasn't clear.
I have a convertible and want something to make it a little more rigid but not the rollcage.

Quoting Gassy: sell the cab, get a targa.

S2GART 03-05-2006 09:52 AM

The first SLs to have a roll bar was the R129 series starting in 1990. The SLs previous to that did not have roll bars, nor were there any offered from the factory.

RickM 03-05-2006 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by S2GART
The first SLs to have a roll bar was the R129 series starting in 1990. The SLs previous to that did not have roll bars, nor were there any offered from the factory.
Right, the 113 SLs in the '60's and the 107 SLs '73.5-'89 didn't have roll bars. The later auto pop-up roll bars would likely add quiet a bit of weight as well.

techweenie 03-05-2006 11:07 AM

If I were looking for extra rigidity in a Cab, I'd be gusseting all over the interior before adding something above to both ruin the lines of the car and add weight where you don't want it.

You might want to consult with Tyson here on the BBS. He's the king of stiffies (chassis, that is).

rnln 03-05-2006 02:17 PM

PorscheGuy79,
why not getting a coupe?
I don't think this opinion related to the topic AT ALL.

techweenie,
Thanks for the info and opinion. The reason why I think about this is rigitity and also the safty (as GenX Porsche said above) protecting my head, and also the look.

I don't know about other part of the world but here in CA, I have seen
them on the older SL and sometimes Mustand a lot of time but I never can see one of the SL on the interenet, never the 911 either. I think it look nice and most important is that can provide the functionality as the roll cage and is nicer.
I don't know why there are so much ignorant people ditching others interested without having any detail info of the topic yet.

Thanks to all those who gave me your opinion and info.

PorscheGuy79 03-05-2006 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rnln
PorscheGuy79,
why not getting a coupe?
I don't think this opinion related to the topic AT ALL.

You really think so? How well do you know your P-car history? What Gassy was refering to is a soft window Targa. A Targa that and a soft rear window that was able to be lowered, and when it was lowered it looked IDENTICIAL to a cab with a roll bar like you are suggesting. Dont think my mildly funny banter is completely off topic, I was solving your problem by thinking slightly outside of the box.

http://www.vpracing.com/Poster_Archives/1960/67033l.jpg

cab83_750 03-05-2006 10:30 PM

A soft targa!!!!! Good luck finding one below the stratosphere.....unless, of course, you have a fat wallet!!!!


I ALWAYS WANTED ONE!!!!!!! I am a targa fan.


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