I need reasurance

[quattrorunner]

I thought my recent repairs have made a bigger differance than they have, but it looks like not as much as I had hoped. Check this thread for the issue at hand.hot oil temps

I had temps at 10 oclock again today It took longer to get there but it's there.
I still don't have the carrera cooler installed yet, but need to feel better about the situation.
So the question is this: who has seen their temps go from too damn hot to normal with the simple addition of the carrera cooler and fan?
All I need are the two flex lines for the install, anyone have some?
Thanks

[quattrorunner]

So this means no one has gotten to normal with a cooler?

[jester911]

I haven't done the conversion but all I can say is the cooler works on carreras.
I have an 86 which does not have the fan and it keeps it cool.

I never get above the 9 oclock position on my temp gauge.
I think installed properly you will be fine.

[livi]

Likewise on my 85 (no fan). Never past 8 o´clock !

[quattrorunner]

OK, thanks. I am looking for someone who did the conversion and can tell me what I want to hear

[trap]

I posted in your original thread that I had the same problem - it ran right up to the second white line. It would take a while but it would eventually get there.

I now run at 8:00 - sometimes as high as 8:30 if it's really hot outside (I'm in Florida).

Here's what I had changed - I can't say which was the most effective because all changed at the same time:

1. Replaced engine thermostat (it wouldn't open until around 220). Also removed and cleaned engine oil cooler (it wasn't in bad shape).

2. Added a Mocal cooler - drove around with little difference and then moved horns and cooler so that it is dead center on the little scoop I added in place of the marker light. Formerly had trombone cooler. Actually, I added the cooler myself but it had little effect. The mechanic moved it to get better airflow. I also added a fan to the cooler.

3. Straightened out all crimps in the oil lines.

BTW - no relation here but my mechanic is Leo at German Specialties near Tampa - he's a great guy who stuck with it until it was right.

There is an answer out there - good luck with it!

Mitch

[Zeke]

Some good thooughts there by Mitch. A basic: Have you looked at the topside of your cylinders thru the fan? A lo tof these cars get dirty in there, some even get a critter's nest.

[quattrorunner]

There we go, good results, thanks.
Anyone else?

[mb911]

here is the starnge thing I run an 81 sc engine with a trombone and a turbocharger and I run 190-200 on 90 degree days? Not sure whats up but mine engine is very clean so maybe that whats up with yours

[quattrorunner]

I removed the fan slightly(not completly as I had it wired still) to look. I admit I couldn't see all the way back but I used some cleaner and sprayed it out?

[trap]

If I were to guess, I would say that the thermostat change and removing ALL of the crimps from the oil lines were key to getting the temp down. I think the oil cooler is an added perk since I do a fair amount of in-town driving.

I left the cool-can (or whatever the hell it's called) off the list for obvious reasons. It was the first thing I tried and I was so desperate to get the temp down I would have shot heroin into the tank if someone had mentioned that it could help.

[quattrorunner]

LOL. meth is quicker (I hear)

[T-Bone911]

My sc with the stock cooler, trombone, was about the 9:00 position for hot Florida days, ie traffic. Went a touch higher on the track. Added the carrera cooler and fan and a steady 8:30 all day all night, track or street traffic. I don't normally turn on the fan other than the track and have no other scoops or air supplys. Happy with the results so far.

[Carl83911]

It's pretty hot down there in the summer. Were you driving in stop and go traffic? Or hwy speeds at 100+ deg. temp.

[Superman]

Other than track application, I would expect temperatures to be under control with, basically, just the engine-mounted oil cooler. That little unit, and the cylinder fins and cylinder head fins, is your first and most important line of defense. If you get all those things cleaned up, and if your thermostat is working properly, then overheating problems should be unusual.

[quattrorunner]

I guess I'll get in there more and see.
I am fine for the drive down town, then coming home, it's all up hill(slight incline) al the way home. Thisis where I can't get the temp under controll at all.

[78targa]

Well, I have done an engine swap where I moved oil lines at the same time.

Both were SC's

Trombone to Front mount cooler: 12-15 degree drop
Flat decklid to turbo decklid: 5 -8 degree drop.

Both made a definate difference. The cooler is weel worth it as I was seeing temps over 235 at times without either change.

[hbkramer]

Is engine tin in place and all heater hose lines connected properly??

Do you have the fan venturi (behind the engine cooling fan in place??

i basterdized my 79sc with a 964 rear deck/tail just because it feeds more cooling air to the eneine,and my engine temps dont climb above the 8-8:30 mark.
I bought the carrera cooler(no fan) to replace the trombone, but i am not sure it makes sense to install it,after seeing the results of cooling with the 964 deck/wing

[silver911]

Originally posted by Superman
Other than track application, I would expect temperatures to be under control with, basically, just the engine-mounted oil cooler. That little unit, and the cylinder fins and cylinder head fins, is your first and most important line of defense. If you get all those things cleaned up, and if your thermostat is working properly, then overheating problems should be unusual.

I agree. My 3.0L only has the engine oil cooler (turbo deck lid) and it runs with a temp of max 8:30 on days when it's 38 C (100 F). If you run hotter than that under normal operating conditions, then you've probably got other issues.

[Richard Burns]

I replied to your previous post .With the later Carrera cooler and fan fitted the only time I get a hot reading is on track days after about 30 laps in 90 to 100 degree temps. I have also fitted the front scoop that is left on the car all the time but I understand that it is not legal in the U S of A. During the current winter I have been a little worried about oil temp maybe a little too low as I neede to travel about 50 miles to get up to 170 degrees.All this is on a ROW 77 3.0 Litre Carrera.