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bento 07-14-2006 09:57 AM

Will a privateer make mince meat of a factory GT3R in a properly spec'd Cayman due to its mid engine design? I guess time will tell.


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1fastredsc 07-14-2006 10:12 AM

All it will take is some suspension and body work with a gt3rs engine and should see it smok'n some f430gt's.

Jim Garfield 07-14-2006 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by armandodiaz
Forget about the body flares and all the looks. What's important is how does it do against the competition? Will we be seeing it in ALMS?
Here's one that you might see. A fella from Canada is testing the waters in PCA club races this year with this Cayman. It was very quick, but not yet reliable. He said that he is getting absolutely no help from PCNA with advice or setup help...too bad that Porsche takes no interest in racing anything but the 911.

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armandodiaz 07-14-2006 10:18 AM

What is up with that exhaust?

I guess I can understand the politics of Porsche. They can't abandon their flagship. I can definately see the Cayman dominating GT3 if setup correctly.

CBRacerX 07-14-2006 10:27 AM

Exhaust is trying to keep from violating noise restrictions.

Something I think has no place on the racetrack, but don't get me started!

blue72s 07-14-2006 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by Jim Garfield
but not yet reliable.
Why? What engine is it running on?

jluetjen 07-14-2006 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by JeremyD
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Sweet - But are the NACA ducts on the rear glass backwards?

It looks like the intention is that they extract air from the cockpit, in which case they may be OK or not. I agree, something doesn't look right with them unless their intention was to create some vortices -- which may be more clever then we're giving them credit for.

Either way, I love the car!

89911 07-14-2006 11:49 AM

I think there is a surgical procedure that can fix that exhaust!

Jim Garfield 07-14-2006 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by blue72s
Why? What engine is it running on?
I'm not sure it was the engine, just sorting problems I think.

Jim Garfield 07-14-2006 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by 89911
I think there is a surgical procedure that can fix that exhaust!
LOL, Lime Rock is renown for noise control issues. This is one of the most common fixes...aim the exhaust away from the metering device :rolleyes: , some of the solutions can be quite convoluted.

jluetjen 07-14-2006 02:39 PM

The ironic thing is that when they set the sound equipment up on the infield, everyone aims their exhaust towards the outfield -- and the church and houses that prompted the sound restrictions in the first place. Go figure!

artplumber 07-14-2006 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by jluetjen
It looks like the intention is that they extract air from the cockpit, in which case they may be OK or not.

Is this maybe for the heat problem because of the mid engine position? I can't think why they'd want to "extract" cockpit air...

rfuerst911sc 07-14-2006 03:13 PM

That is a sweet looking Cayman and would love to see them race.

armandodiaz 07-14-2006 03:42 PM

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Originally posted by artplumber
Is this maybe for the heat problem because of the mid engine position? I can't think why they'd want to "extract" cockpit air...
I know with the 911s holes are opened in the rear glass to reduce lift. Wind comes in through the doors and push up against the rear glass. But this car has it's doors almost sealed???

Jim Garfield 07-14-2006 05:02 PM

I was very impressed with the job that they did fitting the roll cage into a very tight space.

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efhughes3 07-14-2006 06:53 PM

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cygtoad 07-14-2006 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by armandodiaz
I guess I can understand the politics of Porsche. They can't abandon their flagship. I can definately see the Cayman dominating GT3 if setup correctly.
Give this time. I think Porsche has to be convinced from third party racing efforts to begin to make that move.

Maybe they will start with pricing the Cayman RS above the base 911 but not as much as the GT3.

Porsche cares about the 911 heritage, but not so much that they wound't be satisfied with selling the Caymen instead as long as they could make it the cash cow the 911 was and is.

Remember the last time Porsche tried to replace the 911 with the 928 through marketing and will. That was just a boneheaded move, considering the cars were so different.

Don't flame me, but the Cayman could truely be a legitimate 911 replacement. If so, it will be the consumer, not the company that will really be making that decision.


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